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Article #922Re: Moon Hoax
From: Harlan Messinger
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:11
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:11
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"xganon" <remailer@xganon.com> wrote in message news:b98cf42e767c9fa27c66099eb83bb028@xganon.com... > "Don H" wrote: > >Did NASA land men on the moon, or was it all just a hoax? > >Recent TV program claims it was a hoax > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > That's right. More than mere claims as the facts > in evidence prove the whole thing was a big fake. > > Flags fluttering in the high-desert breeze, sand > buggies & actors running along in their deflated > monkeysuits-obviously recorded on highspeed film, > conspicuous absence of blast craters, impossibly > silent running under invisible exhaust emissions, > laughably obvious backdrops that contrast sharply > against the nearby high-desert terrain, etc. etc. > > Plainly, the directors & producers of nasa's "men > to the moon" movies went to great lengths to make > certain that anyone who watches their movies, and > scrutinizes their photographs, also considers the > intense radiation of the Van Allen belt and up to > TWO- MILLION MILE-PER-HOUR RADIOACTIVE SOLAR WIND > beyond the safety of the Van Allen belt, they made > sure anyone can see the whole thing was a big fake. > I'm reminded of the song "might as well be walking > on the Sun"--i.e. the radiation would've fried 'em! > > Be sure to bookmark & study these fact-filled links. > The evidence proves irrefutably that NASA are liars, > and not very good liars at that. They are found out: > I'll just run through them and tell you the first stupid thing I find in each so that I don't have to bother with rest of it. > > http://internet.ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo1.htm "Images and video, of the lunar ascent and descent modules (LM), allegedly taken from the surface of the moon and from the Apollo Command/Service Module (C/SM), do not show flame or exhaust." From the surface of the moon? By whom? Moon people? From the CSM many miles up in the sky, how would you photograph exhaust directly and visibly exhaust *under* the LM? (I've seen someone point out since I first wrote this that you wouldn't see the exhaust anyway, because the brightness you see once the exhaust has left the confines of an exhaust pipe down here on earth is the result of continuing combustion in the atmosphere. That, of course, doesn't happen in the vacuum of space.) > http://www.aulis.com/nasa.htm "The classic still photograph of Buzz Aldrin standing alone was apparently taken from a surprisingly high position (abt. 2 feet higher than chest height) when such pictures should have been taken from a camera fixed to a bracket on the chest (see graph). The photographer reflected in the gold visor is neither standing on an object/rock to give him extra height, nor is he holding the camera at eye-level." This this photo would have been impossible on Earth as well. Which means something is wrong with the analysis either way. "David Groves has determined that the terrain does not undulate more than a few inches where Aldrin is standing,...." How could he make such a fine determination if he doesn't believe the only evidence available that provides the degree of precision necessary to ascertain such a thing? > http://www.grade-a.com/moon/ "Trying to understand how the moon aquired a ten-foot layer of top soil without wind, rain or water to erode the volcanic-crystaline surface, I spoke to a geologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Boston." That's why the hypothesis exists that the moon once had one or more of these things. Also, if there was volcanic activity--you familiar with volcanoes? You're aware of all the, well, *DUST* that they deposit all over everything? Remember Mount St. Helens? Oh, and meteors--you think maybe they pulverize rock just a little bit? > http://www.apollohoax.com/ "Well, to tell you the truth, I see footage all the time where there is only a 0.5 second delay on a two way broadcast to the moon and back." Bull. I *watched* it that day. The delays were clear, and that's why the reporters were so quick to explain them to everybody. As someone pointed out, there is of course *no* gap between a communication from the moon and the response from the people sitting where the recording is being done. There certainly was a gap before the lunar explorers responded to ground control. > http://www.moonmovie.com/ "The goal was to fool the Soviet Union about US strategic capability during the height of the cold war." What strategic capability do you imagine would have been implied by our reaching the moon? (We already had satellites. What advantage would be had by putting weapons the moon, farther away than our satellites?) > http://www.futuresunltd.com/sudarshan/MoonShadows/MoonShadows.htm "A Brief Description of the Krishna Conscious Understanding" 'Nuff said. OK, I lied--here's something else: "For instance, lets assume that we did go to the moon, and that we have sent probes all over the solar system. Than what is so great about the Space Shuttle?" Umm...this is no secret. What was great about the space shuttle was that we had a *reusable* space vehicle for the first time, which could make a normal landing at the end of a trip instead of crashing into the ocean. This has nothing to do with whether we had reached the moon before. > http://www.geocities.com/nasascam/ "It is now common knowledge throughout the world that the Apollo Moon landings were faked by NASA back in the 60's" A lot of people may believe it was a hoax, but it is not "common knowledge". That in itself is a ridiculous thing to say, which shows the writer to be prone to wild assertions. Well, I've got to go now, but I think I've established your propensity for offering "evidence" that is less than completely sound. Bye. > http://www.ari.net/b2m/0198.html > http://myspeedtest.net/backwards/moon.html > http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/2666/MoonHoax2.html > http://advweb.com/kw/forum/misc/messages/689.shtml > http://clydelewis.com/dis/gorsky/gorsky.html > http://galactic-guide.com/articles/8S12.html > http://www.ari.net/b2m/0198.html > http://myspeedtest.net/backwards/moon.html > http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/2666/MoonHoax2.html > http://advweb.com/kw/forum/misc/messages/689.shtml > http://clydelewis.com/dis/gorsky/gorsky.html > http://galactic-guide.com/articles/8S12.html > http://geocities.com/bradguth/moon-02.htm
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