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Started by Timothy Y. Chow
Sun, 16 Aug 1992 00:07
ZFC+~Con(ZFC)
Author: Timothy Y. Chow
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 00:07
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 00:07
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Assuming ZFC is consistent, there are models of ZFC+~Con(ZFC). Are such models interesting? Have they been studied? Or to put it another way, are there any interesting consequences of assuming that ZFC is INconsistent? -- Tim Chow tycchow@math.mit.edu Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and weigh only 1 1/2 tons. ---Popular Mechanics, March 1949
Re: ZFC+~Con(ZFC)
Author: Andrew Dabrowski
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 01:04
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 01:04
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If a model satisfies ~Con(ZFC) then it must actually contain some object which it thinks is a natural number coding a proof of 1=0, say. This object cannot be a standard natural number, or it would mean ZFC really is inconsistent, so it must be a nonstandard number. Hence such a structure models nonstandard arithmetic. I don't know of any systematic treatment of models obtained this way, though. Andrew Dabrowski Try again. Fail again. Fail better. dabrowsa@ucs.indiana.edu -Worstward Ho Indiana U/Bloomington Samuel Beckett
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