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Article #27Re: Nature of Glass
From: Robert C Locher
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 20:45
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 20:45
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jeff@mama.minmet.uq.oz (Jeff Gates) writes: >Now, since the subject of this article was "the Nature of Glass", >I would like to see if I can start a bit of controversy on the net! > >It is often said that > " Glass is a liquid " >or that > " Glass is a supercooled liquid " > >I have my own opinions on this, but first I want to see what comes out. I would argue that it is not a liquid. Consider two "window panes", one made of vitreous silica, one made of monocrystalline quartz. In the glass (the vitreous silica), the argument for being a liquid is that it still can "flow", even at room temperature. It is clear that this "flow" process in the glass at room temperature takes place through diffusion. Gravity would add a nearly imperceptible bias for diffusion in the downward direction, which conceivably over millions of years would be measurable through extra thickness at the bottom. (See the calculations in the related posting.) Now consider the crystalline "window". Vacancies are naturally created at the surface, and because they are lighter than an ion, their diffusion has a nearly imperceptible bias upwards. This would result in thickening at the bottom also. In short, if a glass "flows" at room temperature, it is through diffusion; but amorphous structures have no monopoly on diffusion. Therefore a crystal can be considered to "flow" at room temperature as much as a glass, but clearly the crystal is not a liquid; therefore, vitreous silica at room temperature can't be considered to be one either. Therefore I reject the definition of a glass as a supercooled liquid, at least at room temperature. However, it is a useful concept. As a working definition for *inorganic* glasses, I would offer "a metastable supercooled melt". Whether or not certain amorphous polymers can be considered glasses, I have no idea. What do you polymer people think? - Rob
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Newsgroups: sci.materials,alt.folklore.urban Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!caen!destroyer!news.iastate.edu!locher From: locher@iastate.edu (Robert C Locher) Subject: Re: Nature of Glass Message-ID: <BwyCCL.H8L@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA References: <1992Oct29.183244.11883@msc.cornell.edu> <jeff.720401812@mama> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 20:45:54 GMT Lines: 42