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Article #30Re: Glass flowing...
From: John De Armond
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1992 07:48
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1992 07:48
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woyansky@flamingo.ece.cmu.edu (George J. Woyansky) writes: >I remember doing a calculation in one of my first materials courses at NU >about the subject of "flowing" glass and if I remember correctly it would >take tens of thousands or maybe millions of years to see an effect of thicker >glass at the bottom of a window pane. Depends on the glass. Among other adventures, we own a glass art studio (my wife is the artist, I'm the process control guy). I can assure you that just the glasses we use vary markedly as to hardness, slump temperature, viscosity at a given temperature and so on. I can easily believe that some of the very soft, very low softening point glass we use could flow over periods measured in centuries. An "obvious proof" that glass does not flow is to note that telescope and camera lens, even those hundreds of years old, have not flowed. An "obvious disproof" is the fact that almost every piece of old decorative or glazing glass I've placed a micrometer on that is over a hundred or so years old is a bit thicker at the bottom. Even when glass from the same sheet, as evidenced by the striations and bubbles, is placed in random orientation. Something appears to be happening to this window glass but I'm not going to even wager a guess as to what. >Interesting note-- many old churches with large stained-glass panes are >thicker on the bottom than at the top. They were actually made this >way intentially so that the bottom of the pane could support the weight of >the glass. This may be where some of the folklore comes from. None that we've ever worked with. Art glass is made by one of two methods. Blown glass comes a large cylindrical vessel is that is hand blown, the ends are cut off, the cylinder is split longitudinally, and the two half-cylinders are slumped flat in a kiln. The other, more common kind is made by either extruding or rolling molten globs of glass onto metal plates. The plates and/or the loose material placed on the plates are chosen to render the desired surface pattern. No vendor I know of makes glass intentionally non-uniform in thickness. It would drive the artist batty trying to fit the different lead cames together for one thing. Blown glass DOES vary in thickness but that is considered an unavoidable defect. Large windows are reenforced by either attaching external bracing to the came and/or by using came that has been extruded around a steel wire and/or by using zinc came in critical areas. cut off. John -- John De Armond, WD4OQC |Interested in high performance mobility? Performance Engineering Magazine (TM) | Marietta, Ga |Interested in high tech and computers? jgd@dixie.com |Write me about PE Magazine Need Usenet public Access in Atlanta? Write Me for info on Dixie.com.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!wupost!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!rsiatl!jgd From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) Newsgroups: sci.materials Subject: Re: Glass flowing... Message-ID: <5_9pvjc@dixie.com> Date: 1 Nov 92 07:48:15 GMT References: <1992Oct30.185831.29006@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access. The Mouth of the South. Lines: 53