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Article #428Re: Mat'ls meas. war stories
From: Chris Jensen
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:57
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:57
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From: Markus Jansons, markus@hpscit.sc.hp.com Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:29:49 GMT In article <64400002@hpscit.sc.hp.com> Markus Jansons, markus@hpscit.sc.hp.com writes: > > >Does any one have any interesting or new applications experience >with maeterials measurments using "electrical" methods. > >For example, maeauring capacitance and then calculating dielectric >constant? What did you use for fixtures or transducers? If you >have or know of anyone doing or would like to do such measurements >please advise me. > >It could be very beneficial for both of us..... > >markus jansons markusj@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com > 1-408-553-2727 voicemail. HP has a "transducer" and software that hook up to a HP8510 Network Analyzer. This is for doing dielectric measurements with a contact probe. Note that this requires a substantial, i.e. probably not sputtered, amount of material. Also, the HP85071A software uses a NIST based alogrithm for doing complex permittivity and permeability measurements for samples in a coaxial air line. Lowest frequency is in the 200 - 500 MHz region. The frequency region from 10 MHz to 100 MHz seems to be the hardest to characterize since one can not ignore the finite extent of the sample and yet the phase change through the sample is not significant relative to instrumentation errors, at least in my experience. Comments? Chris Jensen ccjensen@fnal.fnal.gov
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Newsgroups: sci.materials Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!linac!newsaintmail From: Chris Jensen <ccjensen@fnal.fnal.gov> Subject: Re: Mat'ls meas. war stories Message-ID: <#Q4WMMBU8@linac.fnal.gov> X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7773D1796011099@jenson.fnal.gov> X-Xxdate: Mon, 11 Jan 93 15:04:55 GMT Sender: daemon@linac.fnal.gov (The Background Man) Nntp-Posting-Host: jenson.fnal.gov Organization: fermilab X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9 References: <64400002@hpscit.sc.hp.com> <0096668D.8200A2A0@vms.csd.mu.edu> Distribution: na Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:57:53 GMT Lines: 35