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Article #1236Re: Discrete hyperbolic problem
From: Paul Nulsen
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 00:00
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Ricky Laksanadjaja <lricky@earthcorp.com> writes: >Hi, >Does anybody know if there is a fast algorithm to solve the following >problem? >Equation: x^2 - y^2 = z , where x is a positive integer, y is a >positive integer, and x > y, and z is a large positive integer (>200 >digit number). For a given Zt, can you find Xn, where Xn is the first >integer which is greater or equal to SQRT(Zt), i.e. Xn >= SQRT(Zt), >which gives an integer Ym, which will satisfy the above hyperbolic >equation? I can do it by testing the equation with each integer x >greater than sqrt(Zt), but it could take million years to find Xn, if Zt >is a large integer number. Does anyone have a better solution? This does not solve your problem, but it might save some wasted time: Since x^2 - y^2 = (x + y)(x - y), any solution gives a factorization of z. So, if z = p q with p > q, then x = (p + q)/2 and y = (p - q)/2 give a solution (not necessarily integral). Now if z has only one factor of 2, ie z = 2 a, with a odd, then exactly one of p and q is always even and the other one must be odd, which means that both x and y given above have to be half integral. In other words, there can be no integral solutions for x and y in this case, so you can forget it. There are always some solutions if z is odd [eg x = (z + 1)/2, y = (z - 1)/2] or if z is a multiple of 4 [eg x = z/4 + 1, y = z/4 - 1]. Your problem reduces to finding the factorization z = p q that minimises p - q. If you already have a complete factorization of z, this should be straightforward. However, since factorization is notoriously difficult, I doubt that it will help you much. Paul Nulsen
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10d67e,ab68dac0560b9fa8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d67e,public X-Google-Thread: 10d29f,ab68dac0560b9fa8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d29f,public X-Google-Thread: 107079,ab68dac0560b9fa8 X-Google-Attributes: gid107079,public X-Google-Thread: 109d8a,ab68dac0560b9fa8 X-Google-Attributes: gid109d8a,public From: pejn@uow.edu.au (Paul Nulsen) Subject: Re: Discrete hyperbolic problem Date: 1999/06/03 Message-ID: <pejn.928370163@wumpus> X-Deja-AN: 485122697 Approved: Daniel Grayson, dan@math.uiuc.edu, moderator for sci.math.research References: <37558EA7.D17E1699@earthcorp.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@wyrm.its.uow.edu.au X-Trace: wyrm.its.uow.edu.au 928371519 166 130.130.68.12 (3 Jun 1999 00:58:39 GMT) Organization: University of Wollongong, Australia NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Jun 1999 00:58:39 GMT Newsgroups: sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.research,sci.math,aus.mathematics Originator: dan@orion.math.uiuc.edu