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3 total messages Started by Andrew Gill Wed, 28 Oct 1992 04:13
Complex Eits
#17
Author: Andrew Gill
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 04:13
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Newsgroups: math.sci.num-analysis
Subject: Finding Largest Imag Part Complex Eigenvalue
Distribution: world
Organization: James Cook University

Hi.  

Im solving some hydrodynamic stability problems numerically and wind up
needing to find the complex eigenvalue which has the largest imaginary 
part, of a possibly complex matrix.

Currently I am using the QR
algorithm (IMSL) which solves for all eigenvalues and is kind of time
consuming (wasting?) when my matrices are around 200 or 300 big. 

Are there routines which can find just that *one* eigenvalue with the
largest imaginary part?  I had hoped to stay away from methods requiring
initial guesses at the eigenvalue.  My matrices arent symmetric or
anything else nice.

Thanks for any info

Andrew Gill
maawg@manta.jcu.edu.au
Re: Complex Eits
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Author: IGOR
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 17:58
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In article <1992Oct28.041326.9273@marlin.jcu.edu.au>, maawg@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Andrew Gill) writes...
>Newsgroups: math.sci.num-analysis
>Subject: Finding Largest Imag Part Complex Eigenvalue
>Distribution: world
>Organization: James Cook University
> 
>Hi.  
> 
>Im solving some hydrodynamic stability problems numerically and wind up

	I too.

>needing to find the complex eigenvalue which has the largest imaginary 
>part, of a possibly complex matrix.
> 
>Currently I am using the QR
>algorithm (IMSL) which solves for all eigenvalues and is kind of time
>consuming (wasting?) when my matrices are around 200 or 300 big. 
> 
>Are there routines which can find just that *one* eigenvalue with the
>largest imaginary part?  I had hoped to stay away from methods requiring

Yes it seems there is one, As Dr K.P Chen fro  Arizona State University
pointed out to me, it seems that the method you are refering to is 
called the Arnoldi scheme, I searched for some references and found
in a siam paper that this method was perfected by some french
people at IBM in Paris.
On the other hand you might wanna try to use some other library than
IMSL, say NAG for instance, then again one has to have the hardware
that goes with it ( CRAY in my case). By the way something interesting
the IMSL scheme you are refering to works extremly well with IMSL version 0.92
but fails in most cases in its more recent version........

>initial guesses at the eigenvalue.  My matrices arent symmetric or
>anything else nice.

Yeah I know it's bitch.

> 
>Thanks for any info
> 
>Andrew Gill
>maawg@manta.jcu.edu.au





Igor 
Nuclear Engineering Department
Texas A&M University
in College Station WONDERLAND.....tout le monde il est gentil, tout il est 
beau!
Re: Complex Eits
#31
Author: David Stewart 249-4502 room 134
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1992 05:33
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In article <28OCT199212582520@rigel.tamu.edu>, i0c0256@rigel.tamu.edu (IGOR) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct28.041326.9273@marlin.jcu.edu.au>, maawg@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Andrew Gill) writes...
|> >Subject: Finding Largest Imag Part Complex Eigenvalue
|> >[stuff deleted]
|> >Im solving some hydrodynamic stability problems numerically and wind up
|> >needing to find the complex eigenvalue which has the largest imaginary 
|> >part, of a possibly complex matrix.
|> > 
|> >Currently I am using the QR
|> >algorithm (IMSL) which solves for all eigenvalues and is kind of time
|> >consuming (wasting?) when my matrices are around 200 or 300 big. 
|> > 
|> >Are there routines which can find just that *one* eigenvalue with the
|> >largest imaginary part?  I had hoped to stay away from methods requiring
|> 
|> Yes it seems there is one, As Dr K.P Chen fro  Arizona State University
|> pointed out to me, it seems that the method you are refering to is 
|> called the Arnoldi scheme, I searched for some references and found
|> in a siam paper that this method was perfected by some french
|> people at IBM in Paris.
|> [stuff deleted]

I've been using Arnoldi & other techniques on large non-symmetric matrices from
continuous-time Markov chains of size 10^4 and larger.
Arnoldi is good, but there are other things you might like to know about, such
as some ideas in

Large scale eigenvalue problems : proceedings of the IBM Europe Institute on
          Large Scale Eigenvalue Problems held in Oberlech, Austria, July 8-12,
          1985. 1986. IBM Europe Institute on Large Scale Eigenvalue Problems
	  edited by Jane Cullum and Ralph A. Willoughby
	  published by North-Holland (1986).

If you look through journals I'm sure you could find more stuff.
There is also

	"Chebyshev acceleration techniques for solving nonsymmetric eigenvalue
problems" by Y. Saad, Math. Comp. v.42, pp.567--588 (1984)

&	"Arnoldi-Tchebychev procedure for large-scale nonsymmetric matrices" by
D. Ho, F. Chatelin and M. Bennani, Mod'elisation Math'ematiques et Analyse
Num'erique v.24, pp.53--65 (1990)

and an early paper co-authored by Y. Saad.
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David Stewart			Program in Advanced Computation
des@thrain.anu.edu.au		School of Mathematical Sciences
				Australian National University
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David Stewart			Program in Advanced Computation
des@thrain.anu.edu.au		School of Mathematical Sciences
				Australian National University
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