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Article #98Re: Variational method for PDE with first derivatives
From: John C. Baez
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:54
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:54
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In article <1992Oct14.085015.150@news2.cis.umn.edu> burchard@horizon.math.utah.edu (Paul Burchard) writes: >In article <1992Oct13.202915.29039@galois.mit.edu> "John C. Baez" ><jbaez@bourbaki.mit.edu> writes: >> >> Laplacian u = f(u,Du) >> >> where Du is the gradient. (Actually she is doing much fancier stuff, >> but I'll keep it simple here.) She was trying to find a variational >> principle good for the latter kind. Is there any functional of u and >> Du that when extremized gives you the latter PDE? > >Although there are certain obvious costs to this, you can always use |P(u)|^2 >as an energy, when solving P(u)=0, and look for absolute minima. This is getting close but is still not quite what I was looking for, since it requires finding the absolute minimum. I think my question may not have been loudly stated enough the first time, so here it is again: for which if any equations of the above form is there a functional of u and Du that when extremized gives you the equation?? It's easy when there is no Du, of course. I am not looking for other methods of solving such PDE, general results about such PDE, and so on - Mary knows lots of these and is in fact trying prove existence in an extremely delicate case, which she has managed to do using variational techniques in the case when there is no Du.
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Newsgroups: sci.math.research Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!think.com!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: "John C. Baez" <jbaez@bourbaki.mit.edu> Subject: Re: Variational method for PDE with first derivatives References: <1992Oct13.202915.29039@galois.mit.edu> <1992Oct14.085015.150@news2.cis.umn.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: riesz Message-ID: <1992Oct14.165445.7353@galois.mit.edu> Sender: Daniel Grayson <dan@math.uiuc.edu> X-Submissions-To: sci-math-research@uiuc.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA X-Administrivia-To: sci-math-research-request@uiuc.edu Approved: Daniel Grayson <dan@math.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:54:45 GMT Lines: 30