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Started by Cameron Laird
Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:47
Set-free measure theory
Author: Cameron Laird
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:47
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:47
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I propose this definition: a "set-free measure" is a triple <X, m, T> with 1. X a lattice (boolean algebra), 2. m a function defined on the members of X, and 3. T an equivalence relation on X, for which 4. m(x + y) = m(x) + m(y) - m(x.y) and 5. xTy implies m(x) = m(y). The natural model for such an object is conventional measure theory, with X a collection of Borel sets, or measurable sets, taken from an abelian group, and T translation (that is, read xTy as "x is a translate of y"). Are there any (non-trivial) others? I realize I haven't constrained the range of m (finite, includes zero, non-negative, ...), or adjoined a countable version of 4; if doing so makes the problem more interesting, then I'd want to know. Conjecture: the literature already includes a proof that there is nothing novel about "set-free measures", that is, they all have realizations as (extended) measures. Does anyone know? I write "set-free" to emphasize the historical attention directed away from the point-set flavor typical of measure theory, and toward a categorical attention to the action of the function m. -- Cameron Laird claird@Neosoft.com (claird%Neosoft.com@uunet.uu.net) +1 713 267 7966 claird@litwin.com (claird%litwin.com@uunet.uu.net) +1 713 996 8546
Re: Set-free measure theory
Author: Gerald Edgar
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:11
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:11
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In article <C1GuEp.M99@sugar.neosoft.com> claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird) writes: >I propose this definition: a "set-free measure" is >a triple <X, m, T> with >1. X a lattice (boolean algebra), >2. m a function defined on the members of X, and >3. T an equivalence relation on X, for which >4. m(x + y) = m(x) + m(y) - m(x.y) and >5. xTy implies m(x) = m(y). > A place to start your reading is Chapter X of Birkhoff's _Lattice Theory_ (3rd edition). You have described a lattice with valuation (if you omit 3 and 5). -- Gerald A. Edgar Internet: edgar@mps.ohio-state.edu Department of Mathematics Bitnet: EDGAR@OHSTPY The Ohio State University telephone: 614-292-0395 (Office) Columbus, OH 43210 -292-4975 (Math. Dept.) -292-1479 (Dept. Fax)
Re: Set-free measure theory
Author: Allan Adler
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:34
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:34
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In article <C1GuEp.M99@sugar.neosoft.com> claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird) writes: Conjecture: the literature already includes a proof that there is nothing novel about "set-free measures", that is, they all have realizations as (extended) measures. Does anyone know? Apparently, you don't require the boolean algebra to be a sigma algebra. In that case, the Stone representation theorem seems to answer your question: every boolean algebra is isomorphic to the algebra of clopen (i.e. simultaneously open and closed) subsets of a totally disconnected compact Hausdorff space. If you want to work with sigma algebras and want the representation to be a sigma homomorphism, the Stone representation doesn't work anymore. I'm sure a lot of work has been done on the representation of sigma algebras as sigma algebras of subsets, but I don't know the results on it. If your Boolean algebra is atomic, you might get a suitable representation of it as subsets of the set of its atoms. If you look at Borel sets modulo sets of measure zero, you don't have sets any more. This is not an atomic boolean algebra in general. Allan Adler ara@altdorf.ai.mit.edu
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