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Started by Brian Sutin
Wed, 09 Sep 1992 22:20
Better than Cauchy-Schwarz
Author: Brian Sutin
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 22:20
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 22:20
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I have a conjecture which I have been unable to find in the library, prove,
or discover a conterexample:
There exists some constant C > 0 such that for all non-negative functions
f(x) on [0,inf] which satisfy the inequality
INT{ f(x) x dx } <= C INT{ f(x) dx } ,
the inequality
INT{ f(x) dx }^2 <= INT{ f(x)^2 dx }
also holds. All integrals are over [0,inf] and converge.
Physically, this means that for any positive distribution of mass f(x), if
the center of mass is less than C, then the mass is bounded by the L_2 norm.
The conclusion is similar to Cauchy-Schwarz, but with an interval of
integration longer than 1.
Actually, the problem I need to solve is much more complicated than this,
but I am hoping that I can learn something from the method of proof for
this, since it is very similar.
Brian Sutin sutin@helios.ucsc.edu
Lick Observatory, UCSC Santa Cruz, CA 95064
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Re: Better than Cauchy-Schwarz
Author: Arthur Rubin
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:44
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:44
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In <18ltblINN8oq@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> sutin@helios.ucsc.edu (Brian Sutin) writes:
>I have a conjecture which I have been unable to find in the library, prove,
>or discover a conterexample:
>There exists some constant C > 0 such that for all non-negative functions
>f(x) on [0,inf] which satisfy the inequality
>INT{ f(x) x dx } <= C INT{ f(x) dx } ,
>the inequality
>INT{ f(x) dx }^2 <= INT{ f(x)^2 dx }
>also holds. All integrals are over [0,inf] and converge.
Without loss of generality, we can assume INT { f(x) dx } = 1, as all the
inequalities scale.
Now we can rewrite the problem as:
INT {f(x) dx} = 1
INT {f(x) x dx} = A <= C
implies
min INT {f(x)^2 dx} >= 1
As a calculus of variations problem, we can (to find what f has the min
value) write
D[INT {f(x)^2 dx} - \lambda INT {f(x) dx} - \mu INT {f(x) x dx},f] =
INT {2 f(x) df(x) dx} - \lambda INT {df(x) dx} - \mu {df(x) x dx} =
INT {df(x) (2 f(x) - \lambda - \mu x) dx} >= 0,
for any df which is non-negative where f is 0.
Hence, f(x) > 0 -> f(x) = 1/2 (\lambda + \mu x)
Working over any interval [0,X] where X >= 3A, (to make it likely that
things converge and have limits), we find:
f_A(x) = (3A-x) (2/9 A^-2), for 0<=x<=3A, and 0 otherwise.
should be the extreme function.
Then, INT {f(x)^2 dx} = 4/(9 A)
In this case, we can verify directly that, if INT {g(x) dx} = 1, and
INT {g(x) x dx} = A, that
INT { g(x)^2 dx} =
INT {(f_A(x)^2 + 2 f_A(x) (f_A(x) - g(x)) + (f_A(x)-g(x))^2) dx} =
INT {f_A(x)^2 dx} + 2 INT{f_A(x) (f_A(x) - g(x)) dx} + INT {(f_A(x)-g(x))^2) dx} =
4/(9A) + (>= 0 by differencial approx.) + >= 0
Hence, if C>= 9/4, the inequality holds.
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Re: Better than Cauchy-Schwarz
Author: Vincent Broman
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:25
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:25
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let C = 1/8,
let f be L1 and L2 on [0,\infty),
and let \int_0^\infty f(x) x dx < C \int_0^\infty f(x) dx.
Then
\int_0^C f(x) (C-x) dx >= \int_C^\infty f(x) (x-C) dx
implies with a slight amount of work
\int_0^{2 C} f(x) dx >= \int_{2 C}^\infty f(x) dx,
meaning that the median is not more than twice the mean.
Apply Cauchy-Schwartz to f and the characteristic function on [0,2C].
Then,
\int_0^\infty f^2 >= ( \int_0^{2 C} f )^2 / (2 C)
>= ( 1/2 \int_0^\infty f )^2 / (2 C)
= ( \int_0^\infty f )^2.
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