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Article #368Re: Fwd: Standard Deviation.
From: Robert E George
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:19
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:19
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In article <seX2yRq00Uh785H2EB@andrew.cmu.edu> Daniel Read <dr3u+@andrew.cmu.ed
u> writes:
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>Can someone explain why calculating the Standard Deviation (SD),
>for small samples, with (n-1) in the denominator is better than
>doing so with (n) in the denominator? I'm sure that there's
>a perfectly good reason for doing so. But we, lowly engineers
>aren't usually told the reason. Thanks now, for your response later.;-)
>
>RESPONSE (and my own query):
>
>The variance increases as a function of sample size. That is, a small
>sample will systematically underestimate the population variance (if we
>estimate the population variance with denominator N-1). Using this
>reduced denominator therefore has the effect of increasing the variance
>estimate.
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>My question: why does a small sample underestimate the population variance?
>
>daniel read
I'm not certain what "underestimate" means here: if you are speaking of
bias (bias being the difference between the estimand and the expected
value of the estimator), then
--- _ _
\ | X - Xbar |2
T = / |_ _|
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n
will "underestimate" the population variance *for any sample size n*.
T will always have a negative bias *regardless of how large a sample is
used to compute T*.
More intuitively, if we take a very sample, we are less likely to get
extreme values and so our notion of what the population variance is (note
that I am not proposing some particular estimator) will be unrealistic.
For instance, I give an exam to two students. Their scores are 67 and
71. I think, "Gee, there's not a lot of variability in these scores."
But then 8 more students take the exam:
60 78 100 38 50 88 99 39
and it now is clear there *is* more variability in these scores.
But let me reiterate that T will *always* have a negative bias for the
population variance whatever the sample size is
Robert George
(speaking only for myself)
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Newsgroups: sci.math.stat Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!regeorge From: regeorge@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert E George) Subject: Re: Fwd: Standard Deviation. Message-ID: <1992Aug14.231916.23479@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University References: <1992Aug14.172833.11844@cbfsb.cb.att.com> <seX2yRq00Uh785H2EB@andre Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:19:16 GMT Lines: 54