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Re: Standard Deviation.

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From: Duncan Murdoch
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:35
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In article <c48nbgtf@csv.warwick.ac.uk> psrdj@warwick.ac.uk (G M Collis) writes:
>What intrigues me is that the most elementary stats texts make a big
>fuss about using n-1 for an unbiased estimate of the variance, but ignore
>the fact that this gives a biased estimate for the SD. I recall
>that n - 1.5 is nearer the target for the SD when the sample is
>from a normally distributed population. I gather that minimising
>the bias when estimating the SD is rather sensitive to the population
>distribution - I'd like to know more about this.  But my big puzzle
>remains - why is the biasedness of the usual SD estimator (with N-1)
>so rarely mentioned, in stark contrast to the case of the variance.

I think it's just a tradition - introductory statistics texts aren't 
supposed to explain things correctly, they're just supposed to present a 
cookbook of methods, with handwaving and often incorrect justifications.

As others have pointed out, getting an unbiased variance estimate is hardly
essential.  I have trouble even thinking of a rigged artificial example 
where bias of the variance estimate would matter.  In many cases, the 
standard deviation estimate is just used to give a rough idea of the 
variability of a population, e.g. mean +/- s.d.,  or the precision of an 
estimate, e.g. mean +/- s.e.  In these cases it almost never matters whether 
you use N or N-1 --- they give essentially the same answer, unless N is very 
small.

The other place to use a standard deviation is in the construction of 
confidence intervals or tests.  There the denominator doesn't matter a 
bit:  the formula for the CI or test statistic will compensate.

I've argued so far that it doesn't matter whether you use N or N-1.  So, 
which do I use?  Generally N-1, because it tends to make the Normal theory 
formulas simpler, e.g. an F test based on the ratio of two variance 
estimates depends on the degrees of freedom, not the sample size.  

Make it a general rule in doing variance estimates to divide by degrees of 
freedom, not sample size, and you'll find you have simpler formulas to 
remember.  

Duncan Murdoch
dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca
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