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3 total messages Started by James D. Oliver III Wed, 15 Apr 1992 09:43
IQRs and hypothesis testing
#207
Author: James D. Oliver III
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 09:43
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I was using a packaged statistical program to do some simple means testing,
and notice that in several cases the program didn't do a straightforward
t-test, but instead "computed the standard error of the difference of means
assuming IQR(pop.1)/IQR(pop.2)= X".

I found out what IQR is (interquartine(sp?) range) and have a general
understanding of what it is, but can find no references on the specifics of
this particular adjustment and/or the justification for using it.

Can anyone point me to some basic, low-level references on this?  Also, if
there is a similar procedure in conjunction with one-way analysis of
variance?
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____________________________
	Jim Oliver  
	oliver@athena.mit.edu /	joliver@hstbme.mit.edu
	oliver%mitwccf.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Re: IQRs and hypothesis testing
#212
Author: Andrew.Robinson
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:31
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In article <OLIVER.92Apr15054328@ballard1.mit.edu> oliver@athena.mit.edu (James
D. Oliver III) writes:
>I was using a packaged statistical program to do some simple means testing,
>and notice that in several cases the program didn't do a straightforward
>t-test, but instead "computed the standard error of the difference of means
>assuming IQR(pop.1)/IQR(pop.2)= X".
>
>I found out what IQR is (interquartine(sp?) range) and have a general
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^  [interquartile]?
>understanding of what it is, but can find no references on the specifics of
>this particular adjustment and/or the justification for using it.
>
Sounds to me like the package is trying to determine the relative spreads of
the populations because the t-test fails when testing on populations with
differing variances.  The ANOVA does as well, but I don't know of a comparable
procedure.  In fact, that's the first time I've heard of a package which tries
to do this.  Nice.

But I have _no_ idea where to go from here.

>Can anyone point me to some basic, low-level references on this?  Also, if
>there is a similar procedure in conjunction with one-way analysis of
>variance?
>--
>____________________________
>	Jim Oliver  
>	oliver@athena.mit.edu /	joliver@hstbme.mit.edu
>	oliver%mitwccf.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>

regardless,
&rue

Andrew.Robinson@anu.edu.au   <= forestry statistician 
(if it moves, count it; if it doesn't move then CHOP IT DOWN and count it.)
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exist.
Re: IQRs and hypothesis testing
#218
Author: Roger D Nelson
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:36
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In article <1992Apr15.233135.2693@newshost.anu.edu.au> Andrew.Robinson@anu.edu.au writes:
>In article <OLIVER.92Apr15054328@ballard1.mit.edu> oliver@athena.mit.edu (James
>D. Oliver III) writes:
>>I was using a packaged statistical program to do some simple means testing,
>>and notice that in several cases the program didn't do a straightforward
>>t-test, but instead "computed the standard error of the difference of means
>>assuming IQR(pop.1)/IQR(pop.2)= X".
>>
>>I found out what IQR is (interquartine(sp?) range) and have a general
>                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^  [interquartile]?
>>understanding of what it is, but can find no references on the specifics of
>>this particular adjustment and/or the justification for using it.
>>
>Sounds to me like the package is trying to determine the relative spreads of
>the populations because the t-test fails when testing on populations with
>differing variances.  The ANOVA does as well, but I don't know of a comparable
>procedure.  In fact, that's the first time I've heard of a package which tries
>to do this.  Nice.
>
>But I have _no_ idea where to go from here.
>
If indeed the variances are so different the package sees the t-test as
inappropriate, you might consider looking at the distributions
themselves, then looking toward some applicable non-parametric test.
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