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Started by Menees, Bill
Thu, 03 Sep 1992 18:44
Simple Proof that c=median minimizes E[ |X-c| ] needed.
Author: Menees, Bill
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 18:44
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 18:44
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I'm a senior math major taking my first p&s course, and this problem has come up and it intrigues me. My prof. has a proof for it, but he said it was way over my head. Does anyone know of a proof suitable for a senior undergrad? Thanks in advance.
Re: Simple Proof that c=median minimizes E[ |X-c| ] needed.
Author: USENET News System
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 22:10
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 22:10
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In article <3SEP199213440863@utkvx2.utk.edu>, menees@utkvx2.utk.edu (Menees, Bill) writes: > > I'm a senior math major taking my first p&s course, and this problem > has come up and it intrigues me. My prof. has a proof for it, but he said it > was way over my head. Does anyone know of a proof suitable for a senior > undergrad? Thanks in advance. > If you are a senior math major then you should have no difficulty in following the proof. I suspect the real problem is that it's way over your prof.'s head. :-) Well, I must admit that I'm going to cheat. :-) Let's prove the result for a discrete distribution only. When c != any possible x d/dc (sum|x-c|) = number of x's greater than c - number of x's less than c otherwise this does not exist. This derivative is decreasing if c < median and increasing if c > median and as sum|x-c| is continuous and piecewise linear, the minimum either occurs where there is a discontinuity in the derivative, or where it is zero over an interval. The latter case corresponds to a median. In the former case we choose the discontinuity such that on either side |number of x's greater than c - number of x's less than c| is smallest. In the continuous case the derivative exists nowhere but a limiting argument could be used. (This might be over my head :-).
Re: Simple Proof that c=median minimizes E[ |X-c| ] needed.
Author: Brian Junker
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 01:55
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 01:55
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Here are some ideas off the top of my head, that should get you going in the right direction. You will need some decent calculus skills, but that's about it. Case 1. X is a real-valued continuous random variable with density f(x) such that xf(x) -> 0 as x -> +infinity and as x -> -infinity. Write E[|X-c|] as the sum of two integrals, one going from -infinity to c and the other going from c to +infinity, where neither integral involves abs. val's anymore. Differentiate this sum with respect to c and explore... Case 2. x_1, x_2, ... x_n are fixed real numbers (i.e. you have a sample of size n). Then c=the sample median minimizes the sum of absolute deviations |x_1-c| + |x_2-c| + ... + |x_n-c|. You can do the cases n=2, 3, and 4 "by hand" by graphing the sum of abs. deviations as a function of c---it is piecewise linear with bends at the data points x_1, x_2, ... What do you have to do to give a rigorous proof for n data points now? Case 3. X is a discrete random variable taking on the values x_1, x_2, .... with probabilities p_1, p_2, .... The ideas you explored above should be useful in proving that the median minimizes E[|X-c|] for this case. -BJ
Re: Simple Proof that c=median minimizes E[ |X-c| ] needed.
Author: T. Scott Thompson
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 02:01
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 02:01
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news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:
>In article <3SEP199213440863@utkvx2.utk.edu>, menees@utkvx2.utk.edu (Menees, Bill) writes:
>>
>> I'm a senior math major taking my first p&s course, and this problem
>> has come up and it intrigues me. My prof. has a proof for it, but he said it
>> was way over my head. Does anyone know of a proof suitable for a senior
>> undergrad? Thanks in advance.
>>
[explanation for the discrete case deleted]
>In the continuous case the derivative exists nowhere but a limiting
>argument could be used. (This might be over my head :-).
I think that the continuous version is more straightforward since then
the objective function is _everywhere_ differentiable. To get a feel
for the continuous case consider that any solution to the problem
min E(|x-c|)
c
must satisfy a first-order condition provided E(|x-c|) is
differentiable in c. When x is continuous this function is _always_
differentiable since the smooth distribution for x smooths out the
kink point in the absolute value function. Differentiability only
fails if Pr( x = c ) is strictly positive.
The trick is to compute the derivative of E(|x-c|). We can commute
the derivative operator and the expectation integral (showing that
this is OK is the technically difficult part of the proof that your
professor may have had in mind) in order to derive
d/dc E(|x-c|) = E( d/dc |x-c| )
= E [ 1{ x < c } - 1{ x > c } ]
= E 1{ x < c } - E 1{ x > c}
= Pr( x < c ) - Pr( x > c )
where 1{ ... } is the indicator function taking the value +1 if "..."
is true and zero otherwise. To see why this is true, simply note that
the derivative of |x-c| with respect to c equals +1 if x < c and -1 if
x > c. We can ignore the case x = c, since this has zero probability,
and since any reasonable extension of the definition of
differentiability to handle this case would yield a value for the
derivative somewhere between -1 and +1 at the point x = c.
Technically, to verify the first equality you must check that the
conditions of the "Lebesgue dominated convergence theorem" are
satisfied. You can look this up in any advanced probability theory
text.
Now notice that the derivative is zero if and only if
Pr( x < c ) = Pr( x > c )
and this equation is solved by choosing c = median(x). The solution
is unique if the probability density of x is positive on some
neighborhood of the median.
--
T. Scott Thompson email: thompson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu
Department of Economics phone: (612) 625-0119
University of Minnesota fax: (612) 624-0209
Re: Simple Proof that c=median minimizes E[ |X-c| ] needed.
Author: T. Scott Thompson
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 16:02
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 16:02
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The original poster might also be interested in the fact that
c = median also solves the problem
min E( |x-c| - |x| )
c
The advantage of this characterization over the original one is that
since |x-c| - |x| is a bounded function of x, the expectation
E( |x-c| - |x| ) always exists, while E( |x-c| ) might be infinite.
--
T. Scott Thompson email: thompson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu
Department of Economics phone: (612) 625-0119
University of Minnesota fax: (612) 624-0209
Re: Simple Proof that c=median minimizes E[ |X-c| ] needed.
Author: Charles Geyer
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 22:45
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 22:45
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In article <3SEP199213440863@utkvx2.utk.edu> menees@utkvx2.utk.edu (Menees, Bill) writes: > I'm a senior math major taking my first p&s course, and this problem > has come up and it intrigues me. My prof. has a proof for it, but he said it > was way over my head. Does anyone know of a proof suitable for a senior > undergrad? Thanks in advance. Because this might be a homework problem, I won't post a proof right now, but there is a one-line proof that requires no calculus and no probability beyond the fact that expection is a positive linear operator, i. e. E(aX + Y) = a E(X) + E(Y) and 0 <= X implies 0 <= E(X) It works for a general probability distribution using the definition that c is a median if 1/2 <= P(c <= X) and 1/2 <= P(X <= c) I'll post the proof in a week or so. -- Charles Geyer School of Statistics University of Minnesota charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu
Re: Simple Proof that c=median minimizes E[ |X-c| ] needed.
Author: maj
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 21:32
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 21:32
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In article <3SEP199213440863@utkvx2.utk.edu>, menees@utkvx2.utk.edu (Menees, Bill) writes: > I'm a senior math major taking my first p&s course, and this problem > has come up and it intrigues me. My prof. has a proof for it, but he said it > was way over my head. Does anyone know of a proof suitable for a senior > undergrad? Thanks in advance. This reminds me of an interesting approach to several common location statistics. I'll state it for samples to avoid technicalities. Suppose we have a sample x_1, x_2, . . .,x_n. Given a positive real number p define m to minimise Sum |x_i - m|**p then we get p --> 0 mode p = 1 median p = 2 mean p --> infinity midrange Neat, eh? -- Murray A. Jorgensen [ maj@waikato.ac.nz ] University of Waikato Department of Mathematics and Statistics Hamilton, New Zealand __________________________________________________________________ 'Tis the song of the Jubjub! the proof is complete, if only I've stated it thrice.'
Re: Simple Proof that c=median minimizes E[ |X-c| ] needed.
Author: Charles Geyer
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:30
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:30
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In article <3SEP199213440863@utkvx2.utk.edu> menees@utkvx2.utk.edu
(Menees, Bill) writes:
> I'm a senior math major taking my first p&s course, and this problem
> has come up and it intrigues me. My prof. has a proof for it, but he said it
> was way over my head. Does anyone know of a proof suitable for a senior
> undergrad? Thanks in advance.
In article <1992Sep5.224529.12961@news2.cis.umn.edu> I replied:
> Because this might be a homework problem, I won't post a proof right now,
> but there is a one-line proof that requires no calculus and no probability
> beyond the fact that expection is a positive linear operator, ... [and]
> It works for a general probability distribution using the definition that
> c is a median if
>
> 1/2 <= P(c <= X) and 1/2 <= P(X <= c)
>
> I'll post the proof in a week or so.
The promised proof, if anyone is still interested.
Suppose c is a median and c < d (the case c > d follows by symmetry).
E{|X - d| - |X - c|} >= (d - c)[P(X <= c) - P(X > c)} >= 0
the first inequality following because |x - d| - |x - c| is equal to d - c
for x <= c and greater than - (d - c) elsewhere, and the second inequality
following by the definition of "median".
There is a similar proof that the mean minimizes expected squared deviation
-- that shouldn't use any calculus either.
--
Charles Geyer
School of Statistics
University of Minnesota
charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu
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