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9 total messages Started by m3nn0_s4r Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:35
Seeking advice on dental situation.
#141
Author: m3nn0_s4r
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:35
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My wife recently started going to my dentist.    In general, she has perfect
teeth, but an old filling in a molar was bugging her - slightly.

The dentist recommended replacing the filling with an inlay, which he did at
a cost of ~$400.  

Within a day, it was obvious that the inlay was too "high", and my wife went
back two more times for adjustment.   The first return visit, the opposing
tooth was ground down to make room, and the next visit, the inlay was ground
ground down.  

After each visit, her tooth has hurt more.    Now, a month later, it's 
excruciating, and the dentist says that she may need a root canal. 

1)  Is it normal for a filling replacement to escalate like this?

2)  Should she be expected to bear all of the costs?



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.............................................................................

"Palestinian are the only people on Earth asked to guarantee the security of 
 our occupier, while Israel is the only country that calls for defense from 
 its victims"
     	     			-Dr.Hanan Ashrawi

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Re: Seeking advice on dental situation.
#142
Author: Colin B.
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:48
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In calgary.general m3nn0_s4r@salmahayeksknockers.edu wrote:
> My wife recently started going to my dentist.    In general, she has perfect
> teeth, but an old filling in a molar was bugging her - slightly.
> 
> The dentist recommended replacing the filling with an inlay, which he did at
> a cost of ~$400.  
> 
> Within a day, it was obvious that the inlay was too "high", and my wife went
> back two more times for adjustment.   The first return visit, the opposing
> tooth was ground down to make room, and the next visit, the inlay was ground
> ground down.  
> 
> After each visit, her tooth has hurt more.    Now, a month later, it's 
> excruciating, and the dentist says that she may need a root canal. 
> 
> 1)  Is it normal for a filling replacement to escalate like this?
> 
> 2)  Should she be expected to bear all of the costs?

On the one hand, dental work is never 100% certain. Lots of things can go
wrong, even if fair precautions are taken. On the other hand, this is
starting to sound like poor work on the part of the dentist.

Ask the dentist why this happened. I had several problems with my dentist
in Calgary, and am now looking for someone else to fix a root canal he
botched. He also botched a root canal on my wife, and paid for the repair
work that time.

Colin
Re: Seeking advice on dental situation.
#138
Author: fl0w3r_w13ld1ng_$0ld13r
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:44
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In calgary.general Colin B. <cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> wrote:

> On the one hand, dental work is never 100% certain. Lots of things can go
> wrong, even if fair precautions are taken. On the other hand, this is
> starting to sound like poor work on the part of the dentist.

> Ask the dentist why this happened. I had several problems with my dentist
> in Calgary, and am now looking for someone else to fix a root canal he
> botched. He also botched a root canal on my wife, and paid for the repair
> work that time.

> Colin

Jeeezus Keerist, Colin.   Sounds like you and your wife have had a heck of a
time of it.  Hope it works out.


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Re: Seeking advice on dental situation.
#139
Author: Boy Toy
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 01:37
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:35:21 GMT, m3nn0_s4r@salmahayeksknockers.edu
wrote in message <Z7XVf.10197$B_1.103@edtnps89>

>My wife recently started going to my dentist.    In general, she has perfect
>teeth, but an old filling in a molar was bugging her - slightly.
>
>The dentist recommended replacing the filling with an inlay, which he did at
>a cost of ~$400.  
>
>Within a day, it was obvious that the inlay was too "high", and my wife went
>back two more times for adjustment.   The first return visit, the opposing
>tooth was ground down to make room, and the next visit, the inlay was ground
>ground down.  
>
>After each visit, her tooth has hurt more.    Now, a month later, it's 
>excruciating, and the dentist says that she may need a root canal. 
>
>1)  Is it normal for a filling replacement to escalate like this?
>
>2)  Should she be expected to bear all of the costs?

I hope you won't be going back to the same dentist for the root canal.
You might consider getting a second opinion.
Re: Seeking advice on dental situation.
#140
Author: White Phosphorus
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:33
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<m3nn0_s4r@salmahayeksknockers.edu> wrote in message 
news:Z7XVf.10197$B_1.103@edtnps89...
> My wife recently started going to my dentist.    In general, she has 
> perfect
> teeth, but an old filling in a molar was bugging her - slightly.
>
> The dentist recommended replacing the filling with an inlay, which he did 
> at
> a cost of ~$400.
>
> Within a day, it was obvious that the inlay was too "high", and my wife 
> went
> back two more times for adjustment.   The first return visit, the opposing
> tooth was ground down to make room, and the next visit, the inlay was 
> ground
> ground down.
>
> After each visit, her tooth has hurt more.    Now, a month later, it's
> excruciating, and the dentist says that she may need a root canal.
>
> 1)  Is it normal for a filling replacement to escalate like this?
>
> 2)  Should she be expected to bear all of the costs?
>
>
>

I've got a great dentist and during a recent filling removal / cap,
they were upfront about the possibility of a root canal.   He / she
should have mentioned that there was a possibility of a root canal.

I was also told that if the filling is very deep, once it's removed
bacteria "floods" in immediately and heightens the odds of a root
canal as infection can occur. This isn't always the case,  but can
happen...

Tooth pain sucks,  sorry to hear about it.  I found good ol' Advil
was better suited than a more "potent" pain killer.

> -- 
> .............................................................................
>
> "Palestinian are the only people on Earth asked to guarantee the security 
> of
> our occupier, while Israel is the only country that calls for defense from
> its victims"
>          -Dr.Hanan Ashrawi
>
> .............................................................................
> dswan@m3m3t1ccand1ru.com 
> http://www.memeticcandiru.com 
Re: Seeking advice on dental situation.
#136
Author: alberta_girl
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:00
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I've had several deep filings replaced, and that resulted in the teeth 
needing root canals, and then eventually a crown.
I think some people's teeth are more irritated by work done on them. Pretty 
much if the root gets exposed during the replacement of the filing it needs 
a root canal automatically because of the bacteria invasion. If the tooth is 
bothering her it could be an infection/abses and you could ask to try 
antibiotics before a root canal. If the antibiotics can settle the tooth 
down then you can avoid the root canal.... but it could flare up again.
If the dentist does a root canal, this will make it a "dead tooth", and 
eventually it will become very brittle. Almost every tooth that gets a root 
canal will need to be capped (get a crown) within a year or so, if not 
immediately, or it will crack and fall apart.
The worst part is that most plans only cover 50% of root canal work, and 50% 
of crowns, and each of those procedures costs about $1000, so you might be 
looking at $1000 out of your pocket just because she had to replace a simple 
filling. It has frustrated me time and time again, but apparently such is 
life, and the dentist will probably not ofter to lower the charge for you, 
even though it is probably his/her fault for upsetting the tooth in the 
first place by not doing the filling properly.
One other point, make sure that before the dentist preforms a root canal or 
a crown that you send in an application to your insurance company, getting 
them to authorize the work.... or they could refuse to cover their share (%) 
of the cost.
Good luck with this.


"White Phosphorus" <yellow@cake.com> wrote in message 
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>
> <m3nn0_s4r@salmahayeksknockers.edu> wrote in message 
> news:Z7XVf.10197$B_1.103@edtnps89...
>> My wife recently started going to my dentist.    In general, she has 
>> perfect
>> teeth, but an old filling in a molar was bugging her - slightly.
>>
>> The dentist recommended replacing the filling with an inlay, which he did 
>> at
>> a cost of ~$400.
>>
>> Within a day, it was obvious that the inlay was too "high", and my wife 
>> went
>> back two more times for adjustment.   The first return visit, the 
>> opposing
>> tooth was ground down to make room, and the next visit, the inlay was 
>> ground
>> ground down.
>>
>> After each visit, her tooth has hurt more.    Now, a month later, it's
>> excruciating, and the dentist says that she may need a root canal.
>>
>> 1)  Is it normal for a filling replacement to escalate like this?
>>
>> 2)  Should she be expected to bear all of the costs?
>>
>>
>>
>
> I've got a great dentist and during a recent filling removal / cap,
> they were upfront about the possibility of a root canal.   He / she
> should have mentioned that there was a possibility of a root canal.
>
> I was also told that if the filling is very deep, once it's removed
> bacteria "floods" in immediately and heightens the odds of a root
> canal as infection can occur. This isn't always the case,  but can
> happen...
>
> Tooth pain sucks,  sorry to hear about it.  I found good ol' Advil
> was better suited than a more "potent" pain killer.
>
>> -- 
>> .............................................................................
>>
>> "Palestinian are the only people on Earth asked to guarantee the security 
>> of
>> our occupier, while Israel is the only country that calls for defense 
>> from
>> its victims"
>>          -Dr.Hanan Ashrawi
>>
>> .............................................................................
>> dswan@m3m3t1ccand1ru.com http://www.memeticcandiru.com
>
> 
Re: Seeking advice on dental situation.
#137
Author: Bernie
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:34
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Almost the exact same thing happened to me... the first dentist replaced the 
old filling with a white inlay.  That one didn't fit properly, eventually 
causing me to crack the tooth by biting down wrong while chewing because the 
teeth didn't 'fit' together.

The new dentist told me I would need a crown because of the cracked tooth. 
I left it, for a few months, and eventually the cracked part of the tooth 
fell off...below the gumline.  The same new dentist said he could now fill 
it.  He did a 3 surface filling and charged me $150, which I thought was 
very reasonable.  So now that tooth has two fillings beside each other.  He 
really made sure to make the teeth 'fit' after the filling, since this is 
what caused the problem in the first place.

Now the tooth is fine...no pain, no chewing problems.  Eventually I might 
need a crown if it cracks again.  He told me that gold is better than white, 
because it is flexible, and softer.  For a back molar, I would probably go 
with that.  He told me around $800 for a gold crown.

This new dentist is awesome....not a fancy office, but he really has a great 
manner, and is also great with kids.

Dr. Pete Rendek.  Elbow and Heritage.

Bernie


<m3nn0_s4r@salmahayeksknockers.edu> wrote in message 
news:Z7XVf.10197$B_1.103@edtnps89...
> My wife recently started going to my dentist.    In general, she has 
> perfect
> teeth, but an old filling in a molar was bugging her - slightly.
>
> The dentist recommended replacing the filling with an inlay, which he did 
> at
> a cost of ~$400.
>
> Within a day, it was obvious that the inlay was too "high", and my wife 
> went
> back two more times for adjustment.   The first return visit, the opposing
> tooth was ground down to make room, and the next visit, the inlay was 
> ground
> ground down.
>
> After each visit, her tooth has hurt more.    Now, a month later, it's
> excruciating, and the dentist says that she may need a root canal.
>
> 1)  Is it normal for a filling replacement to escalate like this?
>
> 2)  Should she be expected to bear all of the costs?
>
>
>
> -- 
> .............................................................................
>
> "Palestinian are the only people on Earth asked to guarantee the security 
> of
> our occupier, while Israel is the only country that calls for defense from
> its victims"
>          -Dr.Hanan Ashrawi
>
> .............................................................................
> dswan@m3m3t1ccand1ru.com 
> http://www.memeticcandiru.com 
Re: Seeking advice on dental situation.
#134
Author: "KATO"
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:14
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"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:35:21 GMT, m3nn0_s4r@salmahayeksknockers.edu
> wrote in message <Z7XVf.10197$B_1.103@edtnps89>
>
>>My wife recently started going to my dentist.    In general, she has 
>>perfect
>>teeth, but an old filling in a molar was bugging her - slightly.
>>
>>The dentist recommended replacing the filling with an inlay, which he did 
>>at
>>a cost of ~$400.
>>
>>Within a day, it was obvious that the inlay was too "high", and my wife 
>>went
>>back two more times for adjustment.   The first return visit, the opposing
>>tooth was ground down to make room, and the next visit, the inlay was 
>>ground
>>ground down.
>>
>>After each visit, her tooth has hurt more.    Now, a month later, it's
>>excruciating, and the dentist says that she may need a root canal.
>>
>>1)  Is it normal for a filling replacement to escalate like this?
>>
>>2)  Should she be expected to bear all of the costs?
>
> I hope you won't be going back to the same dentist for the root canal.
> You might consider getting a second opinion.

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Re: Seeking advice on dental situation.
#133
Author: mamounjo3
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:06
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If the tooth was bugging her to begin with it might have had a pulpal
problem, in which case it would have needed a root canal from the
beginning.  The dentist should have tested the tooth and looked
carefully at a complete x-ray of the tooth to determine if it had a
pulp problem. The dentist might have removed the filling, then maybe
removed cavities under the filling, and the cavity might have been big
enough to expose the pulp, which often necessitates a root canal.
Prior to placing a final restoration like a gold inlay in the tooth,
the dentist might have benefitted from putting a temporary filling
first and seeing if the tooth was pain-free.

Of course, if the problem is that the inlay was too high, that can
cause symptoms similar to a tooth with pulpal problems requiring a root
canal.  The solution is to ground down the inlay, not the opposing
tooth.  It is considered inappropriate, academically speaking, for a
dentist to grind down an opposing tooth just to make a new filling fit.
 The dentist might not have taken a perfect impression of the tooth, so
that the inlay made from the tooth was too high.  Or the laboratory
that made the inlay might have made it too high.  Or there was too much
cement under the inlay so it was too high, or the cement expanded as it
set, making the inlay rise.  If the tooth bite is okay but the tooth
still hurts, it is best to do root canal and crown.  Sometimes dentists
are too lazy and impatient to adjust the bite perfectly, or are afraid
of grinding down the inlay so much that the inlay will need to be
replaced.  That would cost a remake which is $$$.  Often, if the
dentist felt the need to grind the opposing tooth, the dentist might
have felt that the inlay could be ground down no further, which might
suggest  that the inlay was way to high to begin with.

Also, if the dentist is using an acidic cement like zinc phosphate
cement to place the inlay, that can cause sensitivity in the short
term.

This is all speculation.  Impossible to tell what is really going on
without seeing the case.  may want to get a second opinion from another
dentist.


m3nn0_s4r@salmahayeksknockers.edu wrote:
> My wife recently started going to my dentist.    In general, she has perfect
> teeth, but an old filling in a molar was bugging her - slightly.
>
> The dentist recommended replacing the filling with an inlay, which he did at
> a cost of ~$400.
>
> Within a day, it was obvious that the inlay was too "high", and my wife went
> back two more times for adjustment.   The first return visit, the opposing
> tooth was ground down to make room, and the next visit, the inlay was ground
> ground down.
>
> After each visit, her tooth has hurt more.    Now, a month later, it's
> excruciating, and the dentist says that she may need a root canal.
>
> 1)  Is it normal for a filling replacement to escalate like this?
>
> 2)  Should she be expected to bear all of the costs?
>
>
>
> --
> .............................................................................
>
> "Palestinian are the only people on Earth asked to guarantee the security of
>  our occupier, while Israel is the only country that calls for defense from
>  its victims"
>      	     			-Dr.Hanan Ashrawi
>
> .............................................................................
> dswan@m3m3t1ccand1ru.com                        http://www.memeticcandiru.com
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