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Article #77Re: Question about Hypothetical Type of Thermal Injury. Explained
From: Guy Fawkes
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:07
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:07
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I have a mate who suffered a brachial plexus lesion after an accident, and when the arm withered went for voluntary amputation. the amputation saved the hassle of the awkward bit of "baggage" attached to his right shoulder and always getting in the way. the amputation made no difference whatsoever to the pain, which is considerable. his SO is a senior medical person here (UK) so he always had the best treatments and cutting edge stuff, just last year or so "they" (meaning doctors and consultants) accepted, as a result of completely new tests, that the pain he was feeling was in fact "real" pain and not "phantom" pain, as pretty much 99.999% of doctors prior to these tests insisted... "it's all in your head" I'm not a doctor or bio-chemist or chemist, but it seems to me that there is something in the bio-chemical nature of the nervous system that. a/ once a nervous system matures, permamently remembers that neural map, so that no matter what happens to it, it remembers what it should be like. b/ once a severe trauma occurs, it permanently remembers the last signal sent, and nothing but a subsequent "all is well" signal from an original subnet that matches the "remembered" neural map will turn it off. I can see the survival benefit, major injury, do not use limb until it heals, healing = signals returning from limb return to normal state, this makes a much simpler feedback system that one that monitors progress incrementally. so basically I wouldn't bet you tuppence that your dead cells would stop hurting until you apply some miracle stem cell replacement skin salve...
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