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Started by David Dalton
Sat, 11 Aug 2012 05:08
time and consciousness
Author: David Dalton
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 05:08
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 05:08
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What are some theories that relate time to consciousness?
Has Roger Penrose discussed this issue?
Back in 1994 or 1995 I proposed that there might be a small
imaginary component of time, which could be viewed as
a twist or window, and which would be more important
near the big bang. If this imaginary component is viewed
as a window it would represent an interval from just
before the real component to just after the real component
so e.g. t_R-t_I/2 to t_R+t_I/2, and that window might
be related to consciousness. But if t_I is instead a
twist it might be related to the lemniscate idea below.
Other writings I have done on time:
Math's dictionary [Math is in Welsh tradition the little bear in
---------------- the sky or a great druid, mentor of Gwydion]
lemniscate time
liscuute space [replace with lituus space?]
lisajous with us [actually spelled lissajous]
(Actually I think I meant a precessing lemniscate
such that time is nearly but not quite cyclic
and the precessing lemniscate looks like the petals
of a flower.)
...FrEE_Lancers' G_yNhAME G_naw f/l/NAmiss, NuNe our Never 'n MOreo oo
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
OUIow, the uni-verse, L.whee DRUInk-rD
aura FU-syZY, G_ee, circle-T P/ToeMa-knEE
dense eNFanTime 'round T'Wean dark, from light
Dis lex 'ick T-waIsted AC-Scent PR-One to M/LIce
S/B hare, leaf is / all re but-t
fruit loops chopped, sum bits dropped, sLaphter and PneUNs
a par fait danSH Z\'est nu f(1) T fore too
Chi/me dark to light C/Home light to dark _ sea, ole Port 'eh
have & helf, black et tan,
wHEY t' fur the rigged barE, tinders of nut and dew.
onDe leFt le femME noIre BB uRe gidde
all weigh fael sLlabelLs
(In that by "circle-T" again I meant a cyclic time though
usually time is lowercase t. By "eNFanTIme" I meant
child (enfant in French) time among other things.
I'm not sure if I meant time again in "T-waisted" but
I think so, I meant time wasted and also waisted perhaps
like the centre of the lemniscate. And by "all re but-t"
I think I meant all real except t (or possibly -t). And
by "T fore too" I meant a second time around. By
"onDe leFt" I was playing on on the left and
ondelette (wavelet). By "P/Toe" I was referring to the
p/tau method in geophysics.)
But even if these hypomanic writings have no useful meaning,
I am still interested in theories related time and
consciousness so follow up if you have any thoughts
on the matter possibly including some references.
--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.html Newfoundland&Labrador Travel & Music
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
Re: time and consciousness
Author: Lady Azure, Baroness of the Nort...
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 05:35
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 05:35
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David Dalton wrote: > What are some theories that relate time to consciousness? HEL! The Cave of Treasures is the Gate to the Universe, the Cave of Secrets, is the Gates of Hel, TIME itself! Jacob's House Controls Time, can even Stop It! Ever think about Walking through Time? Better Yet! Ever think of walking the TRUE Akashic Halls, of TIME, "And" SPACE??? > > Has Roger Penrose discussed this issue? > > Back in 1994 or 1995 I proposed that there might be a small > imaginary component of time, which could be viewed as > a twist or window, and which would be more important > near the big bang. If this imaginary component is viewed > as a window it would represent an interval from just > before the real component to just after the real component > so e.g. t_R-t_I/2 to t_R+t_I/2, and that window might > be related to consciousness. But if t_I is instead a > twist it might be related to the lemniscate idea below. > > Other writings I have done on time: > > Math's dictionary [Math is in Welsh tradition the little bear in > ---------------- the sky or a great druid, mentor of Gwydion] > lemniscate time > liscuute space [replace with lituus space?] > lisajous with us [actually spelled lissajous] > > (Actually I think I meant a precessing lemniscate > such that time is nearly but not quite cyclic > and the precessing lemniscate looks like the petals > of a flower.) > > ...FrEE_Lancers' G_yNhAME G_naw f/l/NAmiss, NuNe our Never 'n MOreo oo > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > OUIow, the uni-verse, L.whee DRUInk-rD > aura FU-syZY, G_ee, circle-T P/ToeMa-knEE > dense eNFanTime 'round T'Wean dark, from light > Dis lex 'ick T-waIsted AC-Scent PR-One to M/LIce > S/B hare, leaf is / all re but-t > fruit loops chopped, sum bits dropped, sLaphter and PneUNs > a par fait danSH Z\'est nu f(1) T fore too > Chi/me dark to light C/Home light to dark _ sea, ole Port 'eh > > have & helf, black et tan, > wHEY t' fur the rigged barE, tinders of nut and dew. > onDe leFt le femME noIre BB uRe gidde > all weigh fael sLlabelLs > > (In that by "circle-T" again I meant a cyclic time though > usually time is lowercase t. By "eNFanTIme" I meant > child (enfant in French) time among other things. > I'm not sure if I meant time again in "T-waisted" but > I think so, I meant time wasted and also waisted perhaps > like the centre of the lemniscate. And by "all re but-t" > I think I meant all real except t (or possibly -t). And > by "T fore too" I meant a second time around. By > "onDe leFt" I was playing on on the left and > ondelette (wavelet). By "P/Toe" I was referring to the > p/tau method in geophysics.) > > But even if these hypomanic writings have no useful meaning, > I am still interested in theories related time and > consciousness so follow up if you have any thoughts > on the matter possibly including some references. > > -- > David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) > http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.html Newfoundland&Labrador Travel & Music > http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) > "Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
Re: time and consciousness
Author: Dissitra
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 23:14
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 23:14
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On Aug 11, 5:35 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote: > David Dalton wrote: > > What are some theories that relate time to consciousness? > > HEL! > The Cave of Treasures is the Gate to the Universe, the Cave of Secrets, is the > Gates of Hel, TIME itself! > Jacob's House Controls Time, can even Stop It! > Ever think about Walking through Time? > Better Yet! > Ever think of walking the TRUE Akashic Halls, of TIME, "And" SPACE??? > > > > > > > > > > > Has Roger Penrose discussed this issue? > > > Back in 1994 or 1995 I proposed that there might be a small > > imaginary component of time, which could be viewed as > > a twist or window, and which would be more important > > near the big bang. If this imaginary component is viewed > > as a window it would represent an interval from just > > before the real component to just after the real component > > so e.g. t_R-t_I/2 to t_R+t_I/2, and that window might > > be related to consciousness. But if t_I is instead a > > twist it might be related to the lemniscate idea below. > > > Other writings I have done on time: > > > Math's dictionary [Math is in Welsh tradition the little bear in > > ---------------- the sky or a great druid, mentor of Gwydion] > > lemniscate time > > liscuute space [replace with lituus space?] > > lisajous with us [actually spelled lissajous] > > > (Actually I think I meant a precessing lemniscate > > such that time is nearly but not quite cyclic > > and the precessing lemniscate looks like the petals > > of a flower.) > > > ...FrEE_Lancers' G_yNhAME G_naw f/l/NAmiss, NuNe our Never 'n MOreo oo > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > OUIow, the uni-verse, L.whee DRUInk-rD > > aura FU-syZY, G_ee, circle-T P/ToeMa-knEE > > dense eNFanTime 'round T'Wean dark, from light > > Dis lex 'ick T-waIsted AC-Scent PR-One to M/LIce > > S/B hare, leaf is / all re but-t > > fruit loops chopped, sum bits dropped, sLaphter and PneUNs > > a par fait danSH Z\'est nu f(1) T fore too > > Chi/me dark to light C/Home light to dark _ sea, ole Port 'eh > > > have & helf, black et tan, > > wHEY t' fur the rigged barE, tinders of nut and dew. > > onDe leFt le femME noIre BB uRe gidde > > all weigh fael sLlabelLs > > > (In that by "circle-T" again I meant a cyclic time though > > usually time is lowercase t. By "eNFanTIme" I meant > > child (enfant in French) time among other things. > > I'm not sure if I meant time again in "T-waisted" but > > I think so, I meant time wasted and also waisted perhaps > > like the centre of the lemniscate. And by "all re but-t" > > I think I meant all real except t (or possibly -t). And > > by "T fore too" I meant a second time around. By > > "onDe leFt" I was playing on on the left and > > ondelette (wavelet). By "P/Toe" I was referring to the > > p/tau method in geophysics.) > > > But even if these hypomanic writings have no useful meaning, > > I am still interested in theories related time and > > consciousness so follow up if you have any thoughts > > on the matter possibly including some references. > > > -- > > David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton(home page) > >http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.htmlNewfoundland&Labrador Travel & Music > >http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.htmlSalmon on the Thorns (mystic page) > > "Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan) dalton? isnt that a name 'we; know already via internet, huh! try quantum
Re: time and consciousness
Author: Lady Azure, Baroness of the Nort...
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 06:03
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 06:03
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Dissitra wrote: > On Aug 11, 5:35 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" > <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote: > > David Dalton wrote: > > > What are some theories that relate time to consciousness? > > > > HEL! > > The Cave of Treasures is the Gate to the Universe, the Cave of Secrets, is the > > Gates of Hel, TIME itself! > > Jacob's House Controls Time, can even Stop It! > > Ever think about Walking through Time? > > Better Yet! > > Ever think of walking the TRUE Akashic Halls, of TIME, "And" SPACE??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has Roger Penrose discussed this issue? > > > > > Back in 1994 or 1995 I proposed that there might be a small > > > imaginary component of time, which could be viewed as > > > a twist or window, and which would be more important > > > near the big bang. If this imaginary component is viewed > > > as a window it would represent an interval from just > > > before the real component to just after the real component > > > so e.g. t_R-t_I/2 to t_R+t_I/2, and that window might > > > be related to consciousness. But if t_I is instead a > > > twist it might be related to the lemniscate idea below. > > > > > Other writings I have done on time: > > > > > Math's dictionary [Math is in Welsh tradition the little bear in > > > ---------------- the sky or a great druid, mentor of Gwydion] > > > lemniscate time > > > liscuute space [replace with lituus space?] > > > lisajous with us [actually spelled lissajous] > > > > > (Actually I think I meant a precessing lemniscate > > > such that time is nearly but not quite cyclic > > > and the precessing lemniscate looks like the petals > > > of a flower.) > > > > > ...FrEE_Lancers' G_yNhAME G_naw f/l/NAmiss, NuNe our Never 'n MOreo oo > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > OUIow, the uni-verse, L.whee DRUInk-rD > > > aura FU-syZY, G_ee, circle-T P/ToeMa-knEE > > > dense eNFanTime 'round T'Wean dark, from light > > > Dis lex 'ick T-waIsted AC-Scent PR-One to M/LIce > > > S/B hare, leaf is / all re but-t > > > fruit loops chopped, sum bits dropped, sLaphter and PneUNs > > > a par fait danSH Z\'est nu f(1) T fore too > > > Chi/me dark to light C/Home light to dark _ sea, ole Port 'eh > > > > > have & helf, black et tan, > > > wHEY t' fur the rigged barE, tinders of nut and dew. > > > onDe leFt le femME noIre BB uRe gidde > > > all weigh fael sLlabelLs > > > > > (In that by "circle-T" again I meant a cyclic time though > > > usually time is lowercase t. By "eNFanTIme" I meant > > > child (enfant in French) time among other things. > > > I'm not sure if I meant time again in "T-waisted" but > > > I think so, I meant time wasted and also waisted perhaps > > > like the centre of the lemniscate. And by "all re but-t" > > > I think I meant all real except t (or possibly -t). And > > > by "T fore too" I meant a second time around. By > > > "onDe leFt" I was playing on on the left and > > > ondelette (wavelet). By "P/Toe" I was referring to the > > > p/tau method in geophysics.) > > > > > But even if these hypomanic writings have no useful meaning, > > > I am still interested in theories related time and > > > consciousness so follow up if you have any thoughts > > > on the matter possibly including some references. > > > > > -- > (mystic page) > > > "Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan) > > dalton? isnt that a name 'we; know already via internet, huh! > > try quantum Heaven is the Hall's of SPACE, while HEL, is the Gate to Time! 2 Caves, per the Xtian Teachings! BOTH, are HEAVENS! Your Idea of sitting around listening to Brother Billy and Friends non stop, 7 Day's a Week, with the Eternal Choir doing the Hallelujah in your ear 24/7, would be My HELL for sure! That's Why there is MORE than "ONE" Heaven!
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