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Hi,

Study the Life experiences of Helen Keller.

Ms. Keller was both blind and deaf.

She had a =Great= Teacher who fought through
the problem you've raised. [I'm Sorry, I don't recall
this Teacher's name - can anybody provide it? [I'm
presently running late for this night's employment.]]

The solution converged upon entailed 'mapping'
non-visual stimulation with respect to external reality.

For example, 3-D touch sensation of an object
was cross-correlated with motor interaction be-
tween Ms. Keller and her Teacher.

Variations include stuff like holding, and the Student's
touching, a feather that's held in front of a Teacher's
mouth as the Teacher pronounces words - or the
Student's gently touching the throat of the Teacher
as the Teacher vocalizes - or holding an object
in the Student's hand, and truning it in all directions
in 3-D space until its entire 3-D structure is sensed
via touch, with the Teacher constantly working to
provide cross-correlation via motor interaction [This
motor interaction is necessary in order to guide
convergence upon Recognitions. For those who
have it, these things are discussed in AoK, Ap5 & 6.]

Typically, the first break-through to a viable Recognition
is quite hard to accomplish, but, once it happens, suc-
ceeding recognitions come as a flood [which is nicely
demonstrated in the Life of Helen Keller].

Come to think of it, it's not so different from Sighted
Learning - only the additional sensory-motor 're-map-
ings' are additionally-necessary.

Good luck - and be relentlessly-Persistent.

ken collins

"Anna R." <tutaj@nie.podam.com> wrote in message
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| Ave
| Have anybody ever make blind person imaging a picture?
| It's easy, when one is born with the health eyes and loose this
sense later,
| but if somebody was born blind and even  ligt and color is for him
something
| completely unknown...?
| How to stimulate the parts of the brain, that never have been
active...? Did
| someone try it anyhow?
| If you know anything about it, please tell me. It can be very
helpful for
| me.
|         misericordia@siec2000.pl

I heard of this many years ago, echolocation in humans, it appears that some
to develop the ability and the article below concerns the efforts of certain
scientists to make such an ability more readily available. The results looks
promising, once again demonstrating the remarkable ability of the sensory
corticies to make sense out of something out there even if it aint quite the
usual something that evolution had reliably anticipated for the very greater
part. Taken together with the forced constraint movement therapy, it raises
annoying questions about what brains are doing.

The below article is not related directly to your question but it does
demonstrates that the blind can form a type of sketchpad of their
environment, a probable location for the same being the lateral geniculate
nucleus, a relay station on the way to the occiptal cortex which also
receives efferents from the same. People who are cortically blind may still
have intact lgns, though I suspect any representations created in this
region lie below consciousness except for the greater part (hmmm, maybe that
where ectopic images come from??). However, I remember reading about one of
Nicholas Humphrey's chips, surgically blinded but over time developed an
awareness of her environment but only at crude visual level, nonetheless the
significant thing here was the gradual improvement over many years. There
are also studies indicating that in optic nerve damage spontaneous
regeneration can occur, though the possibility of useful connectivity
remains a question, the general plasticity and adaptability of the brain (as
our modern technology so clear attests), suggests we should not be too
surprised by what we may learn tomorrow.




Blind 'see with sound'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3171226.stm
"Anna R." <tutaj@nie.podam.com> wrote in message
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> Ave
> Have anybody ever make blind person imaging a picture?
> It's easy, when one is born with the health eyes and loose this sense
later,
> but if somebody was born blind and even  ligt and color is for him
something
> completely unknown...?
> How to stimulate the parts of the brain, that never have been active...?
Did
> someone try it anyhow?
> If you know anything about it, please tell me. It can be very helpful for
> me.
>         misericordia@siec2000.pl
>
>

Hi John,

The stuff you discuss can be done with
respect to =any= Observable energydynamic -
even when the energydynamics is not physio-
logically-detectable [that is, even when it
requires technological assistance].

All it is is TD E/I-minimization governing
"supersystem configuration" dynamics as they're
discussed in AoK, Ap5.

Internally, TD E/I-minimization can 'map'
anything to anything - which is Why it's so
Important to Honor Truth - Honoring Truth keeps
the anything-to-anything capabilities of nervous
systems aligned with Reality.

"John H." <johnh@faraway.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f852c19@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
| I heard of this many years ago, echolocation in
| humans, it appears that some to develop the
| ability and the article below concerns the efforts
| of certain scientists to make such an ability
| more readily available. The results looks
| promising, once again demonstrating the
| remarkable ability of the sensory corticies to
| make sense out of something out there even if
| it aint quite the usual something that evolution
| had reliably anticipated for the very greater
| part.

This is the Observable =generalized= processor
nature of our nervous systems, which enables
generalized-adaptability, which optimizes
Survival.

| Taken together with the forced constraint
| movement therapy, it raises annoying
| questions about what brains are doing.
|
| The below article is not related directly to your
|  question but it does demonstrates that the blind
| can form a type of sketchpad of their environment,
| a probable location for the same being the lateral
| geniculate nucleus, a relay station on the way to
| the occiptal cortex which also receives efferents
| from the same. People who are cortically blind
| may still have intact lgns, though I suspect any
| representations created in this region lie below
| consciousness except for the greater part (hmmm,
| maybe that where ectopic images come from??).

Be-cause TD E.I-minimization is Necessary, it can
only occur as a function of the =whole= remaining
neural Topology.

| However, I remember reading about one of
| Nicholas Humphrey's chips, surgically blinded
| but over time developed an awareness of her
| environment but only at crude visual level,
| nonetheless the significant thing here was the
| gradual improvement over many years. There
| are also studies indicating that in optic nerve
| damage spontaneous regeneration can occur,
| though the possibility of useful connectivity
| remains a question, the general plasticity and
| adaptability of the brain (as our modern tech-
| nology so clear attests), suggests we should
| not be too surprised by what we may learn
| tomorrow.

I've got a =lot= of stuff remaining to be shared :-]

Cheers, John,

ken

| Blind 'see with sound'
| http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3171226.stm
| "Anna R." <tutaj@nie.podam.com> wrote in message
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| > [...]

Necessary CLARIFICATION below.

"KP_PC" <k.p.collins@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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| Hi John,
|
| The stuff you discuss can be done with
| respect to =any= Observable energydynamic -
| even when the energydynamics is not physio-
| logically-detectable [that is, even when it
| requires technological assistance].
|
| All it is is TD E/I-minimization governing
| "supersystem configuration" dynamics as they're
| discussed in AoK, Ap5.
|
| Internally, TD E/I-minimization can 'map'
| anything to anything - which is Why it's so
| Important to Honor Truth - Honoring Truth keeps
| the anything-to-anything capabilities of nervous
| systems aligned with Reality.

By "technological assistance", above, I was
referring to external "technological assistance" -
telescopes, microscopes, ampliphers, flash-
lights, radio, television, Newspapers, accel-
erators, etc.

I wasn't addressing stuff like 'implants' or
psychoactive-drug use.

To be functional, 'implants' =must= preserve
remaining neural functionality, and =not=
present a condition in which they become
'Dictators' to TD E/I-minimization. If that
happens, a 'nervous system' becomes
something other than a Nervous System.

TD E/I-minimization must be in-there for
it to be a Nervous System.

| [...]

[the rest deleted because this clarification
is with respect to my own post - addressing
its insufficiency - and not with respect to John's
discussion - OK?] kpc