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Amraam usage in Iraq
#11508
Author: system
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:54
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From system@doc.bmd.trw.com

Thought I would pass this along, since there has been some discussion in
this area.


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 Subject: AMRAAM was credited with a second kill in recent air combat over
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 Posted: Tue, Jan 19, 1993   5:33 PM PST              Msg: VPJD-5068-4272/20
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Subj:   AMRAAM was credited with a second kill in recent air combat over Iraq
--a MiG-29 on Sunday--but may have missed in a MiG-25 engagement on Monday.

AMRAAM in second kill, and a possible miss, in latest Iraq action
     Air-to-air engagements between U.S. and Iraqi planes in the last few
days have scored another victory and a possible miss for the AIM-120 Advanced
Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM), according to corrected but still
partial information released by the Pentagon yesterday.
     An F-16 downed a MiG-29 Fulcrum with an AMRAAM on Sunday in the
Southern Watch "no-fly zone" below the 32nd parallel, an Air Force official
reported. Details of the engagement, including the range at which the missile
was fired, were not available yesterday. However, the engagement would mark
the second victory-two out of two-for AMRAAM and the second for an AF F-16
(DAILY, Dec. 28, 1992).
     But on Monday, an F-15C failed to shoot down an Iraqi MiG-25 Foxbat
after attempting to do so with both an AMRAAM and an AIM-7 Sparrow. The F-15
fired an AMRAAM at the MiG at a range of 27 miles and then a Sparrow at 17
miles, suggesting the engagement was a "head-to-head" shot.
     The Pentagon yesterday said the MiG-25 is known to have landed at an
Iraqi airfield, and whether it was damaged is not known. However, "clearly, it
was not a kill," an AF official said. AMRAAM and Sparrow are supposed to be
capable of destroying a plane by fragmentation blast, without necessarily
connecting with the enemy aircraft. The escape of the MiG suggests the two
missiles did not explode within lethal distance of the Foxbat.
     The AF yesterday was studying gun camera and audio tape of the two
engagements in order to provide more details.
     The Pentagon also disclosed that patrolling pairs of F-16s were
fired on by Iraqi anti-aircraft artillery in two separate incidents. In one,
the F-16s did not return fire but in the second, they attacked the AAA
batteries with cluster bombs, reporting that they had destroyed them.
     In a third incident, an F-4G Wild Weasel teasing radars along the
northern Iraqi no-fly zone detected a radar, which illuminated the aircraft.
It fired a High-speed Anti-radition Missile (HARM) at the radar, the effect of
which is not known.
 
 
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Re: Amraam usage in Iraq
#11590
Author: Chad Barret Wemyss
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:30
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From Chad Barret Wemyss <chadwemy@wpi.wpi.edu>

In article <C19oF0.4Ct@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> system@doc.bmd.trw.com writes:

>     But on Monday, an F-15C failed to shoot down an Iraqi MiG-25 Foxbat
>after attempting to do so with both an AMRAAM and an AIM-7 Sparrow. The F-15
>fired an AMRAAM at the MiG at a range of 27 miles and then a Sparrow at 17
>miles, suggesting the engagement was a "head-to-head" shot.

Is it common practice for the F-15's to carry both the AMRAAM and the Sparrow. 
The AMRAAM is a much superior weapon, and you would think that in a possible 
(probable) shooting situation, they'd carrry the it over the Sparrow.  

Chad Wemyss
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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