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2 total messages Started by FSAC-SID Sun, 24 Jan 1993 15:59
Re: Anti-aircraft
#11533
Author: FSAC-SID
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 15:59
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From "Edward J. Rudnicki" (FSAC-SID) <erudnick@pica.army.mil>


Jim Heath writes:
#Well, Michener in "The Bridges at Toko-Ri" (sp?) has a US Navy jet being
#shot down by a Chinese (?) soldier with a burp gun (submachine gun,
#machine pistol - uses pistol ammo).  'Course that was fiction, I don't
#know if it happened in real life. I doubt that a pistol bullet could get
#to the pilot, unless he flew into it at high speed.  I have heard that

That hypothetical Chinese soldier would most likely have been using a
PPSh-41 or a PPS-42/43, chambering the 7.62x25mm Type P Tokarev cartridge.
This is a high velocity, highly penetrative round, so maybe....


Robert (?) Scott, in "God is My Co-Pilot", has a particularly vivid
description of a strafing mission in his P-40. He had come upon a company
of Japanese in marching order on a road. As he proceeded to attack them,
instead of taking cover they stopped and began firing at him while still
in formation. After machine-gunning them he looked to see the results,
and saw only a few on their feet, still in formation, and still firing.
The Japanese 7.7mm Type 99 rifle had swing-out lead computing "wings" on
the rear sight for antiaircraft use, so this may have been expected.


Ed Rudnicki     erudnick@pica.army.mil     All disclaimers apply
"War must be looked upon as a business, and subject, like any other business,
to business principles. War is the business of destruction of life and
property of an enemy.....The most deadly and destructive implements of war
are the most humane, and the producers of them may justly be looked upon as
humanitarians."     ----- Hudson Maxim (the other Maxim)
Re: Anti-aircraft
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Author: Stephen Jacobs
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:23
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From Stephen Jacobs <saj@chinet.chi.il.us>

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned, in connection with the discussion of
whether military aircraft have actually been brought down by small arms
fire, that one of the versions of what killed Manfred von Richtofen
holds that he was hit by rifle fire fron the ground.  Please note that I'm
not claiming that it's true, only that people have said it before.

                                  Steve      saj@chinet.chi.il.us
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