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Re: TOXIC WASTE - WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?

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From: system
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 00:00
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 Alan \"Uncle Al\" Schwartz <uncleal0@ix.netcom.com> writes:

>There will always be toxic waste - industrial, radiological, biological, 
>medical, and whatnot.

agreed

>Incineration has the wonderful advantage (except for radiological waste, 
>of course) of reducing volume by 90+% and leaving nothing but inorganics, 
>plus producing co-generation energy to help pay for itself.  Exhaust 
>scrubbing technology is mature.  Build the things on the coast where the 
>prevailing winds are out to sea.  The solution to pollution is dilution 
>(as long as the objectionable species are reactive - not polychlorinated 
>hydrocarbons or aromatics).

Eagles and birds of prey along the Great Lakes have a very hard time
reproducing because of (among other things) Cl compounds that get
taken up by the fish they eat... 

I want to see the data that suggest that the amount of dilution you 
are providing is adequate... and regulations/taxes that encourage
reduction of the wastes in the first place.

>Add a designated national landfill out in the desiccated middle of 
>nowhere, dug deep and huge, perhaps lined with geotextile for drainage 
>control.  You cannot avoid waste, but you can redcue it, corral it and 
>put it in one place with a big sign:  If You Enter Here You Will Die.  
>Sacrifce 100 square miles of desert to preserve the other 7,686,748 
>square miles of the Commonwealth of Australia.  It makes sense to me.  
>(And the leachate from the ash and other stuff, if any, might be rich 
>enough in strategic metals to be worht mining.)

>An alternative is the US model:  30,000+ waste dumps, 2500 SuperFund 
>sites (and about 150 "remediated" to date),  illegal dumping,  and massive 
>contamination.

The above is a result of companies that don't give a sh*t and poor national
planning

>about $10 billion in litigation,

politics

>Environmentalist hysteria...

politics and a fairly natural result of history

>Environmentalism is that philosophy and dialectic in direct opposition 
>to progress in its every form

Bullshit.

There are environmentalists with that viewpoint, there are industrialists
who see nothing wrong with causing cancer/asthma attacks... making a 
profit regardless of the costs to others

>Mediocrity is a vice of the doomed.

Huh?

>Alan "Uncle Al" Schwartz
>UncleAl0@ix.netcom.com  ("zero" before @)
>http://www.netprophet.co.nz/uncleal/
> (Toxic URL!  Hazardous to children, Liberals, and most mammals.)
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From: system@niuhep.phys.niu.edu
Subject: Re: TOXIC WASTE - WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?
Date: 1996/06/07
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