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Re: DEBATE? Any Time, Any Place -- IF the Playing Field is Level

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From: Lodewijk
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:32
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edconrad@shenhgts.net (Ed Conrad) wrote in message news:<3d320c58.7704968@news.shenhgts.net>...
> >   POSTED TO TALK.ORIGINS & SCI.ANTHROPOLGY)
> >          (Home, Sweet Home of the Pseudoscientists)
> 
> Let me make one thing perfectly clear: I do NOT fear debate.
> 
> Frankly, I would relish it -- if the debating conditions were
> equal. But obviously they're not!
> 
> Emphatic proof is the relentless character assassination of an
> honest investigator -- me -- in these news groups. I've been called
> everything in the book, and worse.
> 
> Granted, I can understand your childish behavior because you 
> people don't like the unpleasant things I've been saying about
> you -- all true.
> 
> But you must understand it has been the scientific community's total
> disregard for truth that had set this thing in motion, followed by
> your incredible arrogance attempting -- unsuccessfully -- to defend
> it.
> 
> The hard cold fact is that YOU -- same as Pseudoscience Inc. --
> don't want facts and physical evidence.You prefer to side
> with deceit, deception, collusion and conspiracy.
> 
> You have been handed a phenomenal scientific breakthrough
> on a silver platter. The least you can do is discuss these
> discoveries, not make snide jokes about the person who found
> them.
> 
> The photos posted here and elsewhere are astounding, to say
> the very least: petrified bones, teeth and even soft organs discovered
> between anthracite veins.
> 
> Science has long claimed there were no large animals, 
> certainly not man, on earth back when coal was being formed.
> But Science is wrong -- dead wrong -- because all of these
> specimens were found between Pennsylvania coal veins:
> 
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skulla.jpg
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skullb.jpg
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/other1.jpg
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z2.jpg 
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z2_2.jpg
>  
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z11calv.jpg 
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-005S.JPG 
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-006S.JPG 
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-007S.JPG
>  
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/z6femur.jpg
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z7femur.jpg
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z8femur.jpg
>  
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z5gall.htm
>  
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z9lung.htm
> 
> The Smithsonian Institution, I should note, possesses none of these
> Carboniferous-age fossils -- NONE -- unless they've long been buried
> in its basement, or had been hauled to a landfill.
> 
> See, it cannot accept this astounding amount of physical evidence
> because it fully realizes they pose a monumental threat to evolution's
> colossal lie.
> 
> Meanwhile, It is quite obvious that you -- same as the Smithsonian --
> do not want truth. You prefer fiction and fairy tales, which you have
> been spoonfed through all of your colleges and universities.
> 
> It is nothing more than a conspiracy against truth, this crap called
> the Evolution of Man.
> 
> You are to be pitied to have allowed the corrupt Scientific
> Establishment to warp your mind -- and, much worse, to allow
> this despicable fiction to survive for as long as it has.
> 
> These discoveries of human remains prove, beyond any reasonable
> doubt, that man existed in our almost our present form multi-millions
> of years before the conspiratorial evolutionist doctrine places us
> here.
> 
> I might also emphasize that these specimens were subjeced to an array
> of honest scientific testing and all of the results were favorable.
> 
> i.e.: Microcopic search for cell structure (Yerkes bone expert Jeremy
> Dahl); CAT-scans (more than a dozen); infrared scans (detecting dried
> blood on ALL of the human specimens examined); the opinion of world
> reknowned human anatomists Wilton Krogram and Raymond Dart, M.D.,
> along with Kingsnorth Patterson, anotehr bone expert, then of McGill
> University in Montreal;  dental photos, etc., etc.
> 
> Meanwhile, it is a fact that some testing was performed by
> Establishment scientists but, sadly, the truth was twisted with
> fraudulent, deceptive or evasive results.  (Hear that, Smithsonian,
> Andrew MacRae and others.)
> 
> Fortunately, these poor excuses for scientists were caught with
> their pants down. 
> 
> Need I remind you that testing by American Medical Laboratories,
> for example, determined that dried blood exists on many
> of the human specimens. If you question these results, go to the
> horse's mouth and challenge American Medical Laboratories' integrity,
> but be prepared for a lawsuit.
> 
> The bottom line is that I have charged the Smithsonian and others
> with a crime against humanity, and my accusation stands.
> 
> I have called you -- especially in talk.origins and sci.paleontology
> -- squirmin' vermin,. because you are.
> 
> Last but not least: you people DO NOT deserve the truth. You deserve
> to wallow instead in your total disregard for honesty and integrity,
> your acceptance of deceit, deception, collusion and
> conspiracy, and may your erroneous theory of evolution continue
> to turn the good earth into even more of a circus than it is now.
> 
> May God -- IF there is one -- please have mercy on your grandchildren,
> and theirs. Mankind, being denied the truth of its origin and
> ancestry, cannot possibly get better, only worse.
> 
> Ed Conrad
> >   http://www.edconrad.com

So, recapitulating your tirade it sounds to me you're managing the
miracle of combining Creation and Evolution, or better: in your view
Evolution is a 'submap' of Creation. Am I right?
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