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Article #364Re: James Burke
From: janw
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1987 20:48
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1987 20:48
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[jelkind@ruby.berkeley.edu.UUCP ] >to make his point he tends to oversimplify and even "fudge" >things just a little. He's not lying, mind you, but. . . well, >take this example. In one essay, he argues that moveable type >printing arose in part to the shortage of clerks after the Black >Death. But moveable type wasn't invented for a century after the >Black Death! What did people do for clerks in the intervening >hundred-odd years? And surely the population of Europe would have >been beginning to rebound in a century. So, while James Burke is >entertaining and interesting, what he says should not necessarily >taken as gospel. > Richard Schultz I agree about Burke; but the particular conjecture on population is, I believe, wrong. The population of Europe kept falling for a century after the Black Death. It fell by perhaps a third in the Black Death itself, but it probably fell by something like *two thirds* during the next century. The main cause was that the plague returned every few years as population not immune to it accumulated. Among other causes were birthrate decline, change in mores making for less hygiene, and other epidemics. (Recommended source: The Black Death, by Robert S. Gottfried, Free Press, New York). Richard Schultz's argument above still holds: Europe must have accomodated somehow to the immediate shortage of clerks in the 14th century, and the gradual depopulation may not have anything to do with the printing problem. Burke does stretch points; the value of his method lies, I believe, not in discovering *the* true causal connection between facts, but in indicating what *kinds* of connection exist. It is half history, half thought experiment (aka fiction). Jan Wasilewsky
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