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Re: Why There Are No Black Holes

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From: Randell E. Jesup
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1988 02:06
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In article <2420@dasys1.UUCP> gf@dasys1.UUCP (Gordon Fitch) writes:
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>On the contrary.  I adduced the same theory (relativistic view of
>gravity) used to think up "black holes" in the first place.  My
>posting may be wrong, or "speculative" (what an offense!) or a
>put-on, but handwaving it's not.  

	Excuse me, but you seem to have founded your 'proof' upon a mistaken
assumption:  That no information can cross an event horizon.  Remember: gravity
is not a particle, though there has been occaisional speculation about
'gravitrons'.  Now, an event horizon may well prevent particles, even massless
ones such as photons, from escaping, but that doesn't have to mean that
gravity cannot have an affect across one.  The warping of space/time seems
to be an intrinsic property of certain particles (or quarks, whatever).

>Gordon Fitch					{uunet}!mstan\
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>New York City, NY, USA  (212) 879-9031          {sun}!hoptoad/

	On to a more intersting topic:  if gravity is unaffected by space/time
warpage, what implications does this have?  I assume from things I've read that
gravity is believed to propogate at lightspeed (or rather, it's affect).  Is
there any experimental proof of this?

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From: jesup@pawl23.pawl.rpi.edu (Randell E. Jesup)
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Subject: Re: Why There Are No Black Holes
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Date: 2 Jan 88 02:06:05 GMT
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Keywords: black holes, event horizon, loud pop