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Started by D Nisbet
Mon, 11 May 1987 14:48
Heating Costs - Question
Author: D Nisbet
Date: Mon, 11 May 1987 14:48
Date: Mon, 11 May 1987 14:48
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Perhaps someone can help me with this puzzler which has been bothering me for a long time. It is generally a well known fact that if you drive a car using the accelerator a bit like an On/Off switch then you are very likely to waste fuel. The most economic driving style is gradual acceleration and gentle braking. Recently on T.V. I saw an advert which showed a Gas central heating system with a sound-over of someone driving a car uneconomically - the message being "You wouldn't drive your car like this; so why run your central heating in the same way?" I've never really understood this: Some forms of heating are more uneconomic than others - why? Fan heaters for instance are said to be very efficient but very expensive - I don't understand the contradiction. I use Fan Heaters on a Thermostat switch. Is it more economical for me to maintain the temperature of a room by having the heater on longer on a low heat setting, or for short bursts on a high heat setting? Any enlightenment would be nice - it might even reduce my electricity bill. -- Dougie Nisbet University of Edinburgh | <UUCP> ...seismo!mcvax!ukc!its63b!dougie Medical Statistics Unit | <JANET> dougie@uk.ac.ed.its63b Medical School Teviot Place Edinburgh
Re: Economical driving
Author: doug
Date: Fri, 15 May 1987 21:33
Date: Fri, 15 May 1987 21:33
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> It is generally a well known fact that if you drive a car using the > accelerator a bit like an On/Off switch then you are very likely to waste > fuel. The most economic driving style is gradual acceleration and > gentle braking. Generally well-known, but a "fact"? I'm not so sure. Holding a constant cruise speed by flapping the accelerator up and down is obviously stupid, and the economics are (to me) unimportant. And I don't see that braking gently saves any more fuel than leaving four big black marks on the street (although the latter is a bit rough on the tires, which aren't much cheaper than fuel these days :-) But I have seen many references that the old "drive as if there was an egg between your foot and the gas pedal" method is an inefficient way to accelerate. These references suggest that the proper thing to do is to smoothly depress the accelerator pedal to the floor (not jab it to the floor). Shifting should be done at the lowest practical RPMs. I don't know how reliable any of these claims are. I do know that I use full-throttle acceleration, and I usually get about 1 mile per gallon better fuel mileage than my wife does from the same car. And I have a lot more fun when driving :-) -- Doug Pardee -- Edge Computer Corp., Scottsdale, AZ -- ...!ihnp4!mot!edge!doug
Re: Economical driving
Author: John Pantone
Date: Mon, 18 May 1987 19:34
Date: Mon, 18 May 1987 19:34
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In article <759@edge.UUCP>, doug@edge.UUCP (Doug Pardee) writes:
> But I have seen many references that the old "drive as if there was an
> egg between your foot and the gas pedal" method is an inefficient way to
> accelerate.
There are two very distinct "versions" of efficient, when applied to
acceleration in an automobile.
Version 1 - use minimum gasoline
Version 2 - use minimum time
Neither version can be solved, as a general rule, by holding the accelerator
in one position.
Automobile engines have a "best-gas-milage" rpm and a "best horsepower"
rpm. They can be, but usually are not, the same.
Maximizing either version requires modification of accelerator position
with reference to manifold pressure, vehicle speed and engine rpm. Automatic
transmissions are actually fairly good at this sort of thing (or can be
anyway). Perhaps the "drive like you have an egg between your foot and the
accelerator" arose because given no tach, or manifold pressure gauge, and an
automatic transmission at least this would let the trans. do most of the
decision work.
--
These opinions are solely mine and in no way reflect those of my employer.
John M. Pantone @ GE/Calma R&D, Data Management Group, San Diego
...{ucbvax|decvax}!sdcsvax!calmasd!jnp jnp@calmasd.GE.COM
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