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Started by Keith Lofstrom
Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:07
Re: Surviving
Author: Keith Lofstrom
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:07
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:07
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In article <Jan.19.22.41.18.1993.23082@planchet.rutgers.edu> cuhes@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Malcolm McMahon) writes: > >I don't find the hot-house idea very credible. What conditions would >nano be likely to require? Not high tempartures and pressures, >certainly, in fact thermal motion is an important problem. More likely >vacuum and cold. Vacuum is easy enough to do at home. Let's look at >cold. Suppose, to take the extreme case you had nano that could only >operate continuously in surroundings at a few degrees absolute, liquid >helium temperatures. The operating temperature would have to be a good >deal higher (to create the thermal gradient and dissipate the heat). So >nano that would operate continously with liquid helium temperatures >would almost certainly operate briefly at liquid nitrogen temperatures >that are readily available. I think the "hot house" idea here means "special environment". Eric Drexler uses the analogy of a car - your average Chevy isn't going to head out into the woods and start foraging. Nor can any factory device you can point at. We made the transition from trained animals like horses - which can forage - to automobiles which cannot fend for themselves. If the infrastructure is there, an automobile is much more logistically manageable than a horse, even if the horse is more logistically complete. The same is true for virtually everything we design. Since we can separate reproduction and material processing from construction, we do. The result is more rubust and predictable systems. So what does this mean for a system of assemblers? Well, even if it is possible to build a complete and self contained machine, that would be a lot more difficult than building systems of heterogeneous machines, each specialized as to the function ( communication, fuel processing, manufacturing, defense ) it performs. At the macroscopic scale, you put up a machine that combines cad system, machine shop, and fighter bomber against my simple unifunction interceptor, and my simple machine will wipe out your complicated (and thus suboptimal) machine. Now the chances that one of these specialized machines will go rogue and prevail is about the same chance that one guy with a nuclear bomber could take over the world. It would take a large constellation of machines going rogue, and you can partition the systems so that this becomes logistically unfeasable. Any technological community, even a microscopic one, involves a vast wealth of design information that cannot be duplicated easily - simply witholding the information will slow down rogue system attempts to become self-sufficient and dangerous. Thus, a hothouse system can be formed that is dependent on external energy, materials, or information. If the system misbehaves it is simply deprived of necessary inputs until it succumbs. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom keithl@klic.rain.com Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Power ICs
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