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Article #1028Re: a 2 dimensional argument
From: Greg Kuperberg
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:14
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:14
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In article <Bz90C5.7p1@world.std.com> mica@world.std.com (mitchell swartz) writes: > Your suggestion would seem to not include the "observed heat" as a > "quantity of radiation". Rather than considering that the "heat" > actually observed may, itself, consist of infrared radiation, and phonon > radiation (of more than one type), the logic that you purport (and are not > alone in claiming) decrees to limit how nature must work. In your forced > scheme the existence of phonon and infrared radiation requires the > presence of neutrons (etc., and whatever). Why? Wherefore art thou, neutrons and gammas? It's not the logic that I purport, it's the logic that the skeptics purport, and of course I'm not alone in claiming it, since I'm deliberately parroting what other people say. You suggest that a nuclear reaction, rather than producing one or two gamma photons, might produce ten million infrared photons. You're right, I overlooked that possibility. I guess that means my goose is cooked and my scheme is forced. Or at least that of the unruly gang of skeptics, to which I may or may not belong. The next time I meet someone in the Cold Fusion Skeptics Society, I'll ask him whether or not there is an orthodoxy yet for whether, why, and under what circumstances nuclear reactions produce infrared photons. Also ultraviolet, microwave, and visible photons, as well as phonons, polarons, magnetons, gravitons, and naked beauty (known as naked bottom to the crudes in the US). > The only such similar couplings of which I am aware of are those > through Hilbert Space wherein the polarization(s) that a material does > undergo when wrought with an applied electric (or magnetic field in the > equivalent) are linked to the conduction(s) which that material also > undergoes. Hilbert Space, Banach Space, Lobatchevsky Space, Minkowski Space, Phase Space, Eilenberg-MacLane Space, no doubt the couplings occur through one of these spaces. > [Given your topology background, one more question. I assume the field > has advanced considerably since I was painting donuts almost four decades > ago to find the chromatic number (7, I think) required to paint a > maximally-colored-yet-distinct map on its outer toroidal surface. The chromatic number of toroidal maps is indeed 7, assuming that countries have no isolated pieces as Russia and the United States do. I'm told that on a 17-holed torus it's 17. Two guys with a computer code claim that it's 4 for the sphere, but I personally think that the argument has no hole when the surface does, and vice-versa.
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Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!europa.asd.contel.com!darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!daffy!uwvax!uchinews!marvin.uchicago.edu!greg From: greg@marvin.uchicago.edu (Greg Kuperberg) Subject: Re: a 2 dimensional argument Message-ID: <1992Dec14.191410.25237@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Univ. of Chicago References: <Bz90C5.7p1@world.std.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:14:10 GMT Lines: 48