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a skeptical 2-dimensional argument

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From: mitchell swartz
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:09
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  In  sci.physics.fusion:4542;14 Dec 1992; greg@marvin.uchicago.edu
     (Greg Kuperberg) states in "Re: a 2 dimensional argument":


=  "It's not the logic that I purport, it's the logic that the skeptics
=  purport, and of course I'm not alone in claiming it, since I'm
=  deliberately parroting what other people say."

   Deliberately and also sedulously by your own admission.
 

=  "You suggest that a nuclear reaction, rather than producing one or two
=   gamma photons, might produce ten million infrared photons.  You're
=   right, I overlooked that possibility.  I guess that means my goose is
=   cooked and my scheme is forced.  Or at least that of the unruly gang of
=   skeptics, to which I may or may not belong."

    I hope you can shield your goose; try books or hydrocarbons.
    Some inaccuracies, however, are also here.

   ** re: the 1-2 gamma -> 10,000,000 IR 
      All sorts of new branches and branch ratios may be possible in the
 condensed phase.    My humble suggestion was to include the full range and
 diversity of radiation.  I stand corrected, and augmented, by your list;
 and also suggest the addition of plasmons and domainons to the possible
 exiting flux.   As to actual mix: please check the experimental
 (and other) literature. 

   ** re: the "unruly gang"
   Many skeptics, to which we may or may not belong, based upon my
 observations appear to be neither unruly.  Nor may they all
 purport such illogical schemes.
          [Perhaps there is more than one "Society"?]

  In summary, although your prose remains fascinating, however, the
  "parroted" logic is simply not explained.

    
   Where is the well-performed experimental paper (with data
  available if needed) disproving cold fusion, which obtained
 adequate measured loadings for sufficient confinement times? 

   Why do skeptics so easily dismiss so many grounded
 correlations of this new technology based upon their outdated
 newspaper reports?

   Where is a single paper, or calculation, proving that fusion
 which occurs in a solid material ** must ** necessarily generate
 neutrons at the expected plasma-equivalent levels?
              

   When can the proponents and skeptics work together to solve
 the most important energy problem, and potential solutions,
 facing the people of the world?


     Mitchell Swartz         
          mica@world
                                      
                              
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