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Article #1218Sonoluminescence - certain knowledge?
From: blue
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 16:45
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 16:45
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Could someone set my mind at ease by making a clear statement as to what is know about sonoluminescence, ultracavitation, and related topics as opposed to conjecture based on doubtful interpretations of a very limited data set? My understanding of cavitation and bubble formation is that it can involve a very small move away from equilibrium conditions. All that is required is that the local pressure in the liquid fall below the vapour pressure. I would assume that the bubble fills with vapour on a time scale close to that required for collapse so I don't understand why there is any talk about collapse into a "void". Now as to sonoluminescence, I have the feeling that the conjectures have run somewhat ahead of the facts in a chain of reasoning that goes something like the following: The emission of visible light from a gas implies high excitation energies such as would result from temperatures of many tens of kilovolts or higher so we can conclude the sonoluminescence indicates conditions similar to high-temperature plasmas are being produced in the bubbles. It is but one small jump from there to say that this might be a path to fusion. It seems to me, however, that this chain of reasoning has several weak links. Suppose I suggest as an alternative point of view the notion that the observed photons are not produced in the volume of the bubble at all, but are instead coming from the boundary layer of the bubble? What does the experimental data tell us in that regard? Why would I think that the light emission is a surface effect? Basically because it is something easy to mimmick in the privacy of your own home, and it can even be done in your kitchen. Just unroll some plastic wrap in a dark kitchen. The layers of plastic film stick together because the material is a polar dielectric. When you pull the layers apart the surfaces are left with unpaired charges in a nonuniform distribution that is then equilibrated by surface discharges. When I form a bubble in a polar dielectric liquid might I not produce the same effect? I have one more question relating of fractofusion, bubbles, and non-equilibrium. Suppose by hook or crook I do produce a transient electric field in the presence of some deuterons and some electrons. What keeps the electrons sitting still while the deuterons accelerate to velocities high enough to induce fusion? I have always be taught that a mass ratio of roughly 4000:1 would leave the deuterons sitting still while the electrons rushed off to cancel the field. Of course that is old fashioned theory. Dick Blue NSCL @ MSU
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Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi.oar.net!caen!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!ames!pacbell.com!UB.com!zorch!fusion From: blue@nscl01.nscl.msu.edu Subject: Sonoluminescence - certain knowledge? Message-ID: <00966330.AB98DB60.10309@dancer.nscl.msu.edu> Sender: scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller) Reply-To: blue@nscl01.nscl.msu.edu Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:45:42 GMT Lines: 46