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Article #1246Reply to Frank Close/Fusion in Earth
From: jonesse
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 21:00
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 21:00
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In article <9301041335.AA01375@suntan.Tandem.com>, Frank Close <FEC%VAX2.RUTHERFORD.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk> writes: > > Steve Jones posts on fusion in the Earth and asks me to take note of a point > he makes. Steve, it will be several days before I have time to digest your > comments which I have so far only read here at my terminal (my NY resolution > is to do CN-F only at weekends - and I am already violating it) but can > you clarify which point? Is it in connection with the appendix in THTH > ``Fusion does not give the Earth's Heat" or is this some new information > about gas emissions that you are emphasising? > Primarily the latter. That is, I hope people will take seriously the obser- vations of tritium in magmatic waters of three separate volcanoes by the Los Alamos Nat. Lab./U. Hawaii team. These scientists were partially supported via the grant to BYU to study "cold fusion" from the U.S. Dept. of Energy (1990-1991). (Some seem to prefer to forget that the DOE ever supported this work here. But they did!) BYU is directly supporting Prof. McMurtry (Hawaiian Institute of Geophysics) in the team's trip to Galeras volcano in Colombia So. America this month. They carefully differentiate between magmatic and meteoric (rain) waters using isotope ratios for 18oxygen/16oxygen and d/p. Furthermore, they have carefully and I think thoroughly explored the possibility that tritium could originate from prosaic reactions such as n(6Li,t)alpha -- and have ruled these out. Bart Czirr and I checked this one in particular, using known amounts of Li and U in Kilaeua and found that less than 1% of the observed tritium could be accounted for in this way. The earth's heat can be accounted for in other ways than fusion, I think (agreeing with Frank's treatment on this in THTH). But tritium detection coupled with older observations of 3He emissions from volcanos may just lead to interesting new science. Once more we have an example of the possibility of a discovery of a new phenomenon (natural fusion in the earth and planets) without implying that commercial heat generation may follow. (Frank's discussion of P/F's fears that our discussion of "excess heat" production in the earth/planets could interfere with their patents is fascinating. See his book, THTH! Note that my paper with Clint Van Siclen (written in 1985) on the possibility of cold or piezonuclear fusion inside Jupiter includes the term "excess heat." J. Phys. G12: 213-221 (1986). ) Frankly, I hope to prepare readers of the net to look for the paper of these colleagues -- I'll let you know where it will be published should it be accepted. (Oral talks have already been given in geology meetings, generating considerable interest and controversy Prof. McMurtry tells me.) Another reader asked me privately whether the active volcano in Antartica, Mt. Erebus, might be tested using the publicized robot for the presence of tritium. Erebus volcano is actually a good place to look, since very little tritium remains from H-bomb testing way down there in the So. Hemisphere, I understand. I do not know whether the robot will get samples which could be tested for tritium content. However, Prof. McMurtry and team have applied for permission to take samples there; so far, their request has been denied. They would also like to acquire samples from underwater volcanoes, where the ambient tritium in deep seawater is essentially zero. These guys are understandably excited about their observations of tritium in volcanoes. They have waited to analyze results from THREE different volcanoes before trying to publish. I'm excited too. I just hope they can publish their findings in a major journal. Respectfully, Steve
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