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Article #1358Re: Another Question They Cannot Answer
From: brian a m stuckless
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:20
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$$ [MORE h*fL EMiTTER & RECiEVER equations @ item 2.]; SPEEDO.wpd.
Re: the speed of electron; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:14:10
Tom Roberts wrote: > double precision wrote: > big magician wrote:
> >>> does anyone knows the speed of the accelerated deviated
> >>> electrons in a crt?
> >> The accelerating voltage of a typical CRT is about 15 kV, so the
> >> kinetic nergy of an electron when it hits the screen is about 15
> >> keV; it therefore has v/c ~ 0.03. -=- I see I made a mistake.
> >> Sorry. I use units with c=1: keV for energy, keV/c^2 for mass,
> >> and keV/c for momentum (since c=1 these distinctions are
> >> notational only).
>
> KE = 15 keV ; m = 511 keV/c^2 ; E = m + KE = 526 keV
Those equation shows no LaGrangian L; And, no Angular momentum pA:
$$ GR equation corrected.
GUESS iSS GR G_uv = G_absolute / G = 1 / (n - 1) = G_relative = Gr.
ENTHALPY E = m*c^2 + LaGrangian L + Volt*Amp*sec energy eV
= eM + L + eV
= m*c^2 + pL*c + pA*fA
= m*c^2 + pL*c - (me*v^2 / 2)
= m*c^2 + m1*c^2 - (me*v^2 / 2)
= m*c^2 + h*fL + pA*fA
= m*c^2 + h*fL + nA*hbar*fA
= m*c^2 + nL*h*c / wl + nA*hbar*fA
= iNTRiNSiC energy + LaGrangian L + Volt*CHARGE energy eV
= eM + L + eV
= eM + eK ..note, this line very much fits 526 keV, above;
= eF + L + eK
= eG + eK - eV
= eG + eK + (me*v^2 / 2)
= eM + eK + (me*v^2 / 2) + eV.
Hamiltonian ANALYSiS confused POTENTiAL energy especially, which
is WHY it only fits with LaGrangian ANALYSiS in PARTiCULAR cases.
You CAN only understand this if REST mass*c^2 = iNTRiNSiC energy.
Note c constant is NOT equal to 1 in GUESS iSS units, but arrives
at the SAME ANSWER ..and also, with the SAME form as noted above.
```Brian.
> P = sqrt(E^2 - m^2) = 125 keV/c ; > beta = v/c = P/E = 0.24
> So this is more relativistic than I originally said, but not
> enormously so. gamma-1 is a typical measure of how large
> relativistic effects are, and that is 0.029 or ~3%. To obtain
> good crisp images across the face of a CRT (especially position
> being linearly related to the signal voltage)
> I suspect they must be taken into account in the design.
>
> As others have pointed out, bigger screens use larger voltages.
> Increasing to 25 kV only increases v/c to 0.30 and gamma-1 to ~5%.
>
> Tom Roberts tjoberts@lucent.com
Re: the speed of electron.
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$$ [MORE h*fL EMiTTER & RECiEVER equations @ item 2.]; PD wrote:
> Length is not an intrinsic physical property of the spaceship,
> so asking whether it "PHYSICALLY increases or decreases" is a
> nonsequiter. The same is true of its clock rate. > PD
Especially in GR, WHERE the GR TEST-mass is a GR POiNT-mass ..ONLY.!!
But PUT GR aside:
1. h/2*pi*c = me*wls = {mph}*ls = Moo*loo/4*pi = eR*loo/2*pi*c^2.
2. h*fL = pL*c = nL*h*c / wl = m1*c^2 = nA*{mph}*ls*c^2 / rA, ENERGY;
= pi*(h + nA*hbar) / (pi + 1)*sec ..The ENERGY for at a RECiEVER;
= 2*pi*(h + 2*hbar) / (2*pi + nA)*sec ..The ENERGY for an EMiTTER;
= (m1*v1^2/2)*{(m1/M1) + 1), The GUESS STANDARD LaGrangian.
SAME...
LEFT side is a RECiEVER DETECTOR; AND|OR EMiTTER (below) ENERGY, h*fL;
|
pi*(h + nA*hbar) | 2*pi*(h + 2*hbar)
= -- -- --- -- -- = -- -- --- -- --;|= -- -- -- -- -- --; = -- ---
(pi + 1)*sec | (2*pi + nA)*sec
|
2*pi*(h + nA*hbar) | Ra*h 2*pi*Ra*hbar
= -- -- -- -- -- -- = -- -- -- --;|= -- -- -- -- -- = -- -- -- -- --
Ra*sec | (2*pi +nA)*sec (2*pi +nA)*sec
|
LEFT side is the RECiEVER DETECTOR| ; The RiGHT side is the EMiTTER.
|
SAME, but for the AMBiENT media ..or, iN-TRANSiT space ENERGY, h*fL;
nA*{mph}*ls*c^2 nL*h*c | m1*v1^2 m1 |
= -- -- -- -- -- -- = --- -- = |(-- - --)*(-- + 1)| = pL*c = m1*c^2.
rA wl | 2 M1 |
STANDARD LaGrangian.
Sun RADiATEs @ AMBiENT; AMBiENT RADiATEs 1400 Watts/m^2 @ 1*AU radius.
3. RESTmass*c^2 = iNTRiNSiC REST energy eM = EQUiVALENT energy e.
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$$ iNTRiNSiC energy (Jim Carr), follows..
RePOST 1: iNTRiNSiC energy (Jim Carr).
From: arcsign@my-deja.com; To: arcsign@my-deja.com
Re: Do Photons Have Mass?; Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:05:56 GMT
--------------------------------------------------------------
In article <93vike$u0a$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, srp@microtec.net wrote:
In article <3a631377$1@pull.gecm.com>, richard.herring@baesystems.com
wrote: > > In article <3A4646B6.E787BC16@microtec.net>,
srp (srp@microtec.net) wrote: > > > Jim Carr a Ècrit :
In article <3a362709.3795467@news.uq.edu.au> this@will.bounce writes:
> > > > > Mass is equivalent to energy and photons of course have
> > > > > energy.
> > > >
> > > > Only partly true. Mass is equivalent to (what I call)
> > > > _intrinsic_ energy, the energy a particle has that is
> > > > unrelated to its motion.
> > > > The relation is that m = sqrt{ E^2 - (pc)^2 }/c^2.
`````snip`````
> > Note the sign. He's *subtracting* the momentum contribution
> > from the total energy. What's left is the intrinsic energy.
>
> I understand that. The point was that pc can only theoretically
> be completely subtracted in that equation because in reality
> no particle can be brought completely to rest with respect to
> all other particles.
>
> This means that when what Jim calls the intrinsic energy is to be
> calculated, the simple original equation E=mc^2 has always been
> and still is the real deal.
[arcsign to srp] YES, exactly, 'iNTRiNSiC energy' is just ANOTHER
simple SYNONYM for (Rest-mass)*c^2=(Rebel GR-invarint REST-mass)*c^2.
> We know c, we can measure m, so we can very precisely calculate E.
>
> On its part, p is relative, and varies depending with respect to
> which other particle you consider the motion of the original
> particle. The major point being that it can never equal zero for
> any real particle with respect to all other particles.
>
> --
> André Michaud
> Service de Recherche Pédagogique http://www.microtec.net/srp/
> La nouvelle "Société Royale" http://www.microtec.net/srp/socroyfr.htm
> "Les choses n'arrivent dans ce monde que lorsque quelqu'un les fait
> arriver" - Anonyme.
>
> Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com ; ® © ¿ ; End of rePOST 1.
RePOST 2:
From: alan (darkcloud@mac.SendMeSpam.not.com); sci.physics;
Date: 2000/06/19; Go-go Google: <
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&th=aae4c668cab37523&
seekm=8hm3vk%24j1c%241%40crib.corepower.com#link20 >:
> | James A. Carr <jac@scri.fsu.edu> > ================
> Dear Jim,
> Three times, you have quoted this error.
>
> The speed of light is NOT "the ratio of the electric permittivity
> of free space (vacuum) to the magnetic permeability of free
> space.".
>
> It's the square root of the inverse of their product.
[jiM Carr to Brian (arcsign)]
Sorry for the error. Of course you are right, it is the "square root
of the inverse of their product". Thank you for correcting me. I hate
being wrong, but now that you have corrected me I am no longer wrong.
> You numbskulls are pathetic.
>
> Sincerely, > brian a. m. stuckless
Re: Three questions from a layman. ..end of rePOST 2.
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