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Article #1410Re: OT: Are protons really quantum black holes?
From: brian a m stuckless
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 04:40
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 04:40
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carlip-nospam@physics.ucdavis.edu wrote: >
> In sci.physics Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie <fff@example.com> wrote:
> > Hi. :-) >
> > I'm about to embark on a websearch that could ultimately tell me some
> > of the numbers about protons and black holes.
>
> > Everybody's heard of a proton, right?
>
> > And practically everybody (at least english-speaking internet geeks)
> > has heard of a black hole, right?
>
> > I wonder if anybody's done comparative numbers on the effective mass
> > vs. dimensions of the two. Like, are they conceptually equivalent,
> > or could, maybe, protons (and their sisters, neutrons) actually _BE_
> > teeny, tiny, infinitesimallyy smalll BLACK HOLES?????
>
> A charged black hole has a maximum charge-to-mass ratio, and a spinning
> black hole has a maximum angular momentum-to-mass ratio. --
$ "Micro" means "orders of magnitude smaller"-LiKE ..duh.
The MORE "orders of magnitude smaller" ..the MORE micro a Black Hole.
[ A GR-WORLD-point CANNOT exhibit SiZE or SHAPE, on GR-WORLD-lines. ]
[ There are NO Black Holes with mass in GR ..G_uv & T_uv UNrelated. ]
[ THEREfore, any GR Black Hole was, AGAiN, simply a GR-WORLD-point. ]
$ The non-GR Blackhole mass M1
[ A GR Schwartzchild "radius" 2*G*M1 / c^2 is NOT a GR calculation. ]
[ Mathematically speaking there is NO constraint on non-GR mass M1. ]
[ Mathematically speaking the 2*G*M1 / c^2 is 2*G*(ANY mass) / c^2. ]
[ Mathematically speaking the 2*G*M1 / c^2 fits 2*G*(PROTON) / c^2. ]
YES, any PROTON is a TRUE micro-Blackhole, mathematically speaking.!!
brian a m stuckless
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> -- If these are
> exceeded, you don't have an event horizon, but instead have a "naked
> singularity."
>
> The charges and spins of all known elementary particles far exceed this
> maximum value.
>
> So, no, the proton can't be a black hole.
>
> Steve Carlip
Re: OT: Are protons really quantum black holes?
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