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Article #1482Re: JET ACHIEVES FUSION POWER
From: Paul M. Koloc
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1991 07:12
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1991 07:12
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In article <1991Nov12.125104.16722@cs.rochester.edu> dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz) writes: >In article <24270@wraxall.inmos.co.uk> des@frogland.inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd) writes: > >>however, are all these claims of a limitless energy supply being >>overplayed? at the (excellent) open day at JET in the summer one >>of the leaflets/films said that the power would be produced by sheathing >>a fusion reactor in lithium, which would itself fuse with high energy >>deuterium (?) nuclei flying out of the reaction and that the heat >>from this would be used to generate electricity. .. . > >The claims certainly are overplayed. And, if the reactor is too hot to go >into for 4 months after a 2 megajoule pulse, what's going to happen if >a commercial reactor producing 3000 MW (th) continuously should break >down? I have this image of ITER becoming a major embarassment. >Known reserves of lithium are a small subset of the amount of lithium >in the crust .. . >The lithium is transmuted by neutrons, btw. The (n,t) reaction on 6Li does >produce some additional heat, but most the energy is from d+t fusion reactions >in the plasma, carried to the blanket by the neutrons. >I wonder why JET didn't do a D + 3He experiment (or did they?). The reactivity of D-He(3) is too low at the luke warm temperatures of a projected operating tokamak. One would like to have a temperature around 72 KeV to optimize the charge particle production (minimize neutron output), but at least half that temperature is needed to ignite. That is the <T> and not the "temperature" in the kinetic wash of the injected particle beams. Basically, D-He(3) is an ideal first burn fusion fuel because it has much reduced particle wall loading and generates a greatly reduced radioactive inventory. The fact that a tokamak can not achieve a burn from the outset with such a fuel spells big problems for the the world governments driven fusion program as meeting a workable device. I think it's high time we punted the tokamak and started over with much cleaner concepts that feature much better engineering profile, shorter development time and low capitalization. To keep the program from becoming another flagship white elephant, industry should lead and put up half the money to keep them honest (and have enough stake that they would dump losers after a few years as opposed to decades or centuries??) The tokamak started around 1963 and optimistic predictions put its commercialization not far from 2063 (if ever). > Paul F. Dietz dietz@cs.rochester.edu +---------------------------------------------------------+**********+ | +Commercial* | Paul M. Koloc, President (301) 445-1075 ***FUSION*** | Prometheus II, Ltd.; College Park, MD 20740-0222 ***in the*** | mimsy!prometheus!pmk; pmk@prometheus.UUCP **Nineties** +---------------------------------------------------------************
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11232c,40a3128f3b5f55a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 107e5d,40a3128f3b5f55a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid107e5d,public X-Google-Thread: fcea6,40a3128f3b5f55a8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcea6,public X-Google-Thread: 10830a,40a3128f3b5f55a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10830a,public X-Google-Thread: 10b574,40a3128f3b5f55a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b574,public X-Google-Thread: 10b88a,40a3128f3b5f55a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b88a,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-11-13 08:28:05 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!ieee.org!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!nsisrv!mimsy!prometheus!pmk From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M. Koloc) Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion,sci.misc,sci.energy,eunet.misc,misc.misc,uk.misc Subject: Re: JET ACHIEVES FUSION POWER Message-ID: <1991Nov13.071251.12218@prometheus.UUCP> Date: 13 Nov 91 07:12:51 GMT References: <1991Nov11.154523.18353@jet.uk> <24270@wraxall.inmos.co.uk> <1991Nov12.125104.16722@cs.rochester.edu> Reply-To: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M. Koloc) Organization: Prometheus II, Ltd. Lines: 54