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1 total messages Started by brian a m stuckless Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:59
Space is full of photon gas.
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Author: brian a m stuckless
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:59
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Bilge wrote: > [his straw DOPPEL] >  guskz@hotmail.com: >  >
>  >I know they say a photon **doesn't** have a [REST] mass. >  >>>
>  >But do we know the amount of energy a single photon can produce
>  >and then use E=mc^2 thus m = E/c^2 (or another similar equation)?

$$ BEFORE the GR-coup (after Einstein died ~1954-55?), that was TRUE.
$$ SiNCE the GR-coup THAT isN'T TRUE ..Since THEN the m isN'T= E/c^2.
$$ ALSO the following equation has no ANGULAR momentum or LaGrangian,
 ..ad-hoc-ly assumed Pythagoras Theorem in Heavyside/Lorentz Doublet.
>              E^2 = (m*c^2)^2 + (p*c)^2       > For a photon, m = 0.

Hamiltonian ENTHALPY E = eM + L + eV
                = REST mass + LaGrangian, L + Volt*Amp*sec, eV
                    = m*c^2 + h*fL + nA*hbar*fA
                    = m*c^2 + pL*c + pA*fA
Where..
pL = LiNEAR momentum  ; pA = ANGULAR momentum.
fL = LiNEAR frequency ; fA = ANGULAR frequency.
eK = LaGrangian+eV = E-eM = E-eF-L = KiNETiC energy.
eV = E-eM-L = eG-eM = eF+eK-eM = eK-L, ..OR= -(m1*v1^2/2).

>  >As well there's the equation: >  >
$$                               ^.
>  >                        P*V = n*k*T
$$                       [Pa*Vol. = n*k*T]
$$                   [Pascal*Vol. = n*k*Temp.]
$$              [Pressure*Volume = n*k*degreeKelvin,] ..
$$ [..note the EARth's AMBiENT photon gas PARTiTiON function k].
Note, k in nkT is Boltzmann's, Pauli's & Bose/Einstein's PARTiTiON k.
[i.e. THAT's "Bose" ..as in BOSON or boson, as in PHOTON GAS, duh.!!]
i.e. THAT equation is NOT LiMiTED for any established EARth ALTiTUDE.

You're so ANTi-Brian sometimes, Bilge. MORE ANTi-Brian; BiGGER loser.

>  >(P = pressure  V= volume  n = number of molecules k = constant
>  >T = temperature)

$$ There're lots of k's ..you COULD have been a little more specific.
$$ [Bad enough mixing VARiOUS Standard unit SYSTEMs, without notice].

>  >Perhaps mass can be determine someway with the above formula
>  >(since m = density x volume and/or possibly other equations
>  >using planck' s constant)
>
>   The theoretical [REST] mass of zero follows from maxwell's
> equations. Photons have only transverse polarizations.

$$                 Space is full of photon gas.
 Photons can be said to have a LONGiTUDiNAL polarization in the SAME
 sense YOUR "not reachable" POiNCARE element is not accepted science.
 Technically, a photon can only be seen by looking directly UPstream.
 [i.e. So, clearly, in that sense, the photon is LiNEARLY polarized].

$$ Hope this helps,                                         ```Brian.

>  >IFor PV = nkT: could the "theoretical" mass be computed in some way
>  >through the temperature of a group of photons (such as sun rays) and if
>  >it's possible to measure the pressure these photons generate within a
>  >specific Volume of space in time (i guess?)?   ...or another similar
>  >formula that contains density x volume (= mass) and the number of
>  >molecules? >  >
Re: is there a "theoretical" mass for a photon ???
Re: Space is full of photon gas.
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