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Article #37Re: THE 'RADIUS' OF THE ELECTRON?
From: Louis_N
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:22
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:22
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On 3 Sep., 19:15, "Michael J. Strickland"
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> <Loui...@edu.herlufsholm.dk> wrote in message
>
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> Questions:
> - What is the value of the experimentally measured ’radius’ of the
> electron?
> - What is the value of the experimentally measured ’radius’ of the
> proton?
>
> Best regards
> Louis Nielsen
> Denmark
>
> I don't know about the experiemental but I would put an upper limit on
> it
> by assuming it's density is >= that of a proton. You can then calculate
> limits on it from:
>
> m_e / [4/3 pi (r_e)^3] >= m_p / [4/3 pi (r_p)^3]
>
> r_e <= [ (m_e/m_p)^(1/3) ]* r_p
>
> r_e <= {9.109e-31/1.673e-27) * 8.25e-16m
>
> using:
> r_p = 8.25e-16m
> m_p = 1.673e-27 kg
> m_e = 9.109e-31 kg
>
> r_e <= 4.491e-19 m
>
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Michael J. Strickland,
Please read the following considerations and derivations and the
calculation of the average 'radius' of the electron. The calculated
value is in accordance with the limit you have given.
Best regards
Louis Nielsen
MASSES AND RADII OF THE PROTON, THE ELECTRON AND THE UNIVERSE.
UNIFICATION OF MICROPHYSICS AND MACROPHYSICS.
By Louis Nielsen
http://www.rostra.dk/louis
In the following I calculate that the average radius of a real
electron is about 4*10^(-19) meter.
CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE ELECTRON, THE PROTON AND THE UNIVERSE
- Are there connections between the electron, the proton and the
Universe?
- My answer is: Yes.
I postulate that there exists a connection between the average mass-
density of the electron and the average mass-density of the
Universe. A similar connection exists between the average mass-
density of the proton and the average mass-density of the Universe.
The mathematical connections are given by the equations:
(1) (m(p)/r(p)^3) = N(p)*(M/R^3)
(2) (m(e)/r(e)^3) = N(e)*(M/R^3)
In equation (1) m(p) = 1.67*10^(-27) kg is the rest mass of the proton
and r(p) is the average radius of the proton.
In equation (2) m(e) = 9.11*10^(-31) kg is the rest mass of the
electron and r(e) is the average radius of the electron.
The quantity M is the total mass of the Universe and R is the actual
average radius of the Universe.
The quantity N(e) is equal to the ratio between the electrostatic and
gravitostatic forces between two electrons and N(p) is equal to the
ratio
between the electrostatic and gravitostatic forces between two
protons.
The quantities N(e) and N(p) are defined by:
(3) N(p) = (k*e^2/G*m(p)^2) = 1.24*10^36
(4) N(e) = ((k*e^2)/(G*m(e)^2) = 4.16*10^42
In the equations (3) and (4) k is Coulomb's constant and e is the
electric charge of the electron. The quantity G is the value of
Newton's gravitational constant.
MASS-/RADIUS SYMMETRY BETWEEN THE PROTON AND THE ELECTRON
From the equations (1), (2), (3) and (4) we can derive the following
simple symmetry formula between the masses and radii of the electron
and the proton:
(5) m(p)/m(e) = r(p)/r(e)
The measured value of the mass ratio m(p)/m(e) = 1836.15.
From equation (5) we see that the average radius r(e) of the electron
is about 1836 times smaller than the average radius r(p) of the
proton.
With an average radius r(p) = 0,8*10^(-15) meter of the proton we can
from equation (5) calculate the average radius of the electron r(e).
We get:
(6) r(e) = 4*10^(-19) meter
Read more in my treatise:
http://www.rostra.dk/louis/
Comments to the above considerations are very welcome.
Best regards
Louis Nielsen
Denmark
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