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Article #83Re: The Existence of God, or of A god.
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> Is there any information in this message? Brain nutritional content = Nil > I do not understand. Welcome aboard. > Please help me. ;-) It's not you that needs help... > > Jason at SETILink <setilink@aol.com> wrote in message > news:20011104010656.23181.00001171@mb-ce.aol.com... > > > Sorry I've been invited to go OT, > > Don''t worry, Afghanistan's "guests" may be working > on destroying U.S. power stations too! > > The FBI is searching for six men, apparently from the > middle-east, who were stopped by police in the Midwest > last weekend and released - even though they possessed > descriptions and photos of a nuclear power plants in Florida > and the Alaskan pipeline, box cutters and other equipment, > and they were traveling in groups of 3 in 2 white cars, > according to Knight Ridder Newspapers. > > The link: > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/wkmg/20011031/lo/938582_1.html > > How many hospitals will that take out? How many millions > will die then? (Assuming that you are from Australia with the > .au in your e-mail) If Australia's greatest buildings and cities > are destroyed, if thousands are killed, if her economy is > wrecked, if her mail system is destroyed and her government > is totally distrupted by bio-terrorism, then you might understand > our perspective. When you have to surrender your civil rights > to let the government spy on every communication yet keep > everything a secret, when you change your laws to permit > torture and have secret military tribunals permitting executions > within 30 days, when you know that any minute the next terrorist > attack may happen, then you would be justified to whine your > wimpery whine. We know that the former Soviet Union couldn't > beat them even though the Soviets were at the peak of their > military might with virtually unlimited manpower and resources > and the extra benefit of having land access to roll armor over, > then you understand why we have to use different tactics. > > We also have lost a gorrilla war in the past (and so did you), > and we remember it. It's time for us to start fighting like gorilla > fighters. I really don't think you understand what is happening > in America right now. We cannot back out of this one! Many > of us see this as only the opening act to a very long, arduous, > grueling, survival killfest. They have crossed the line and they > will die! Alot of innocent people are going to die, here, there > and probably even in Australia! Get used to it. Even if their > "guests" stop hiding under the tents of the red-crescent and > red-cross, mosques and hospitals, do you think this is going > to stop? Even if we catch and/or kill every one of those > scumbags do you think it's going to stop? Do you think that > those innocent children are going to grow up to love you and > your society? Do you think that those innocent children will > grow-up to overthrow the Taliban and stop al-Qaeeda from > blowing up skyscrapers and killing equally innocent people? > > You might want to watch again a few African wildlife films > and to get a hint of what's going on from our perspective. > This is a basic survival game, we've only just begun, and > it's not going to be pretty. > > EXTRATERRESTRIALS, PLEASE SAVE US NOW! > Remind us that the primative religions are fake and that we > can get off of our crack-cocaine-like addiction to oil that > leads to so many other complications. > > Otherwise, it seems that Darwinian survival will continue > to play out in both the philosophical and real world. > > Jason H. > _____________________________________ > > http://hometown.aol.com/setilink > (now alphabetized, no main page music! Better?) > > > <dj-m@zedz.net> wrote in message > news:b9abcdae968919f80a3db13ae87ab710@aarg.net... > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > His Star at its rising, an hour and a half before sunrise > > Bethlehemjudah 3:50 AM LMT--for Saturn's ingress into the > > tenth of zodiac (First of Horoscope) i.e., Augusti mensis > > die XI h. XV m. XLVII post meridiem horologii Mathematici: > > > > Tropical Day: 05:16:05:48 > > Julian Day: 1720550.56250 > > LMT: 03:50:00 12-Aug--2 > > UTC: 01:30:00 12-Aug--2 > > TDT-UT: +9077.3 sec > > Sidereal Time: 01h 02m 10s > > Metonic calendar: 1 Elul 3758 > > Islamic calendar: yawm al-'ithnayn > > 29 Dhu l-Qu`da -643 (1948439.17=1AH) > > Mayan Long count: 7.17.16.5.8 > > (baktun.katun.tun.uinal.kin) > > Haab: 6 Pop > > Tzolkin: 7 Lamat > > > > Sun Leo Rules Fifth House of horoscope with Moon to Virgo > > therein second of zodiac, Venus souljourn on her heliacal > > rising conjoined Jupiter exalting Subra Fourth House with > > spirit Mercury retro Leo therein first of zodiac, fortune > > Cancer on the equatorial ascendant debilitate Third House > > twelfth of zodiac, Saturn Taurus First House-first breath > > tenth of zodiac, Mars Capricorn Ninth House six of zodiac, > > Aquarian Head of the dragon rules Eleventh House eight of > > zodiac, dragon's tail Libra debilitates Sixth House Pluto > > Virgo exalts therein third of zodiac, Neptune to heart of > > the Scorpion Seventh House fourth of zodiac, Uranus retro > > Pisces Twelfth House nine of zodiac; Sun, Jupiter, Saturn > > Uranus closing the distance, Mars, nearest of the planets: > > > > Monday August 12, 3 BC 3:50 AM LMT +2:20 35:10E 31:42N > > Body Z_Placement Latitude r Hs RUL. Velocity > > Sun : 19Leo09'59" + 0:00'00" R 05 [R] +0.9732321 > > Labrum : 02Vir07'08" -17:39'48" 05 | deCrt > > Moon : 02Vir34'11" - 1:19'21" - 05 [-] +12.101941 > > Pi Virgo : 02Vir45'24" + 6:09'30" 05 | piVir > > Psi Virgo : 21Vir27'30" - 3:20'41" 06 | psVir > > Pluto : 21Vir28'59" +16:44'22" e 06 [e] +0.0347036 > > Lilith : 06Lib56'40" - 3:53'40" - 06 [d] +0.1114918 > > Antemidhea: 19Lib57'31" __________ 07 | __________ > > Neptune : 14Sco14'26" + 1:47'28" - 07 [-] +0.0090835 > > Han : 14Sco26'35" +11:37'30" 07 | zeOph > > Antares : 15Sco00'40" - 4:18'34" 07 | alSco > > Rastaban : 16Sco55'56" +75:31'44" 07 | beDra > > Vertex : 10Sag14'33" __________ - 08 [-] __________ > > Alpha Tele: 10Sag18'56" -22:21'24" 08 | alTel > > Altair : 06Cap42'55" +29:23'06" 09 | alAql > > Mars : 07Cap15'54" - 5:35'46" e 09 [-] +0.1066766 > > Descendant: 00Aqu11'32" __________ 10 | __________ > > True Node : 18Aqu07'15" + 0:00'00" R 11 [R] -0.0010311 > > Theta Dora: 18Aqu46'26" -85:20'42" 11 | thDor > > Altais : 24Pis02'33" +82:51'13" 12 | deDra > > Uranus : 24Pis13'37" - 0:46'37" - 12 [-] -0.0310059 > > V.Equinoct: 03Ari04'12" + 0:00'00" 12 | __________ > > Midheaven : 19Ari57'31" __________ 01 | __________ > > Aldebaran : 15Tau00'00" - 5:36'20" 01 | alTau > > Mu Lepus : 20Tau33'04" -39:17'10" 01 | muLep > > Saturn : 20Tau45'12" - 2:05'54" - 01 [d] +0.0390428 > > 11th Cusp : 21Tau07'27" __________ 02 | __________ > > Alnitak : 29Tau54'20" -25:33'11" 02 | zeOri > > Sirius : 19Gem40'31" -39:09'51" 02 | alCMa > > Alathfar : 16Can35'57" +86:49'18" 03 | omeDra > > Fortune : 16Can47'20" __________ - 03 [d] __________ > > Rho Puppis: 16Can51'35" -43:28'41" 03 | rhPup > > Alpha Lynx: 17Can08'42" +17:47'48" 03 | alLyn > > East Point: 17Can21'06" __________ d 04 [d] __________ > > /Venus : 28Can24'13" + 0:41'49" - 04 [-] +1.2302981 > > \Jupiter : 28Can35'08" + 0:37'52" e 04 [e] +0.2119242 > > Psi Leo : 28Can42'58" + 0:11'41" 04 | psLeo > > Subra : 29Can33'47" - 3:51'55" 04 | omiLeo > > Beta LeoMi: 29Can42'46" +24:59'24" 04 | beLMi > > Ascendant : 00Leo11'32" __________ 04 | __________ > > Regulus : 05Leo11'29" + 0:22'43" 04 | alLeo > > Rho Leo : 11Leo37'28" + 0:02'52" 04 | rhLeo > > Thuban : 12Leo11'04" +66:16'50" 04 | alDra > > Spirit : 13Leo35'43" __________ - 04 [-] __________ > > Minchir : 13Leo41'18" -23:16'31" 04 | up-2Hya > > Alioth : 13Leo44'11" +54:11'04" 04 | epUMa > > Mercury : 14Leo01'09" - 3:15'42" d 04 [-] -0.8513727 > > Chertan : 18Leo37'36" + 9:39'12" 05 | thLeo > > > > Radial Distance/v > > Earth: 00.0000000~ > > Sun: 01.0064858+ > > Moon: 00.0026809- > > Mercury: 00.6577495- > > Venus: 01.5639646- > > Mars: 00.4623742- > > Jupiter: 06.2760019+ > > Saturn: 08.9529188+ > > Uranus: 19.1463245+ > > Neptune: 30.3776598- > > Pluto: 31.0918412- > > Node: 00.0025073+ > > Lilith: 00.0027106~ > > > > Meridian Cusps > > (of horoscope) > > 01: 19Ari57'31" > > 02: 21Tau07'27" > > 03: 19Gem46'50" > > 04: 17Can21'06" > > 05: 16Leo05'01" > > 06: 17Vir20'14" > > 07: 19Lib57'31" > > 08: 21Sco07'27" > > 09: 19Sag46'50" > > 10: 17Cap21'06" > > 11: 16Aqu05'01" > > 12: 17Pis20'14" > > > > Fundamental Aspects > > 1: Venus (Can) Con (Can) Jupiter - orb: a0:10' > > 2: Sun (Leo) Opp [Aqu] Node - orb: s1:02' > > 3: Sun (Leo) Con [Leo] Mercury - orb: s5:08' > > 4: Sun (Leo) Squ (Tau) Saturn - orb: a1:35' > > 5: Mercury [Leo] Squ (Sco) Neptune - orb: s0:13' > > 6: Saturn (Tau) Tri (Vir) Pluto - orb: a0:43' > > 7: Saturn (Tau) Con (Tau) 11th Cusp- orb: s0:22' > > 8: Moon (Vir) Tri (Cap) Mars - orb: a4:41' > > 9: Jupiter (Can) Con (Leo) Ascendant- orb: s1:36' > > 10: Mars (Cap) Squ (Lib) Lilith - orb: a0:19' > > 11: Uranus [Pis] Opp (Vir) Pluto - orb: a2:44' > > 12: Fortune (Can) Con (Can) EastPoint- orb: s0:33' > > 13: Sun (Leo) Squ (Sco) Neptune - orb: s4:55' > > 14: Pluto (Vir) Tri (Tau) 11th Cusp- orb: a0:21' > > 15: Venus (Can) Con (Leo) Ascendant- orb: s1:47' > > 16: Venus (Can) Tri [Pis] Uranus - orb: s4:10' > > 17: Jupiter (Can) Tri [Pis] Uranus - orb: s4:21' > > 18: Saturn (Tau) Sex [Pis] Uranus - orb: a3:28' > > 19: Sun (Leo) Squ (Tau) 11th Cusp- orb: s1:57' > > 20: Saturn (Tau) Squ [Aqu] Node - orb: s2:37' > > 21: Neptune (Sco) Tri (Can) Fortune - orb: s2:32' > > > > Fiducial Aspects > > 22: Jupiter (Can) Con (Can) Psi Leo - orb: a0:07' > > 23: Venus (Can) Con (Can) Psi Leo - orb: a0:18' > > 24: Mars (Cap) Con (Cap) Altair - orb: s0:32' > > 25: Ascenda (Leo) Con (Can) Subra - orb: s0:37' > > 26: Neptune (Sco) Con (Sco) Antares - orb: a0:46' > > -adjudicated by Daniel Joseph Min 24 April 2001 AD > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQA/AwUBO+TEIZljD7YrHM/nEQIcHQCgu+QFeAaGyQLd2SOx1Qx1Fc6Qfr4AoKxB > > UW4bLFi1l6sfka2YeQIWmPDD > > =xTm8 > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > http://keyserver.pgp.com/pks/lookup?op=get&exact=off&search=Daniel+Joseph+Mi > n > > http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html > > > > > S D Rodrian <sdr@sdrodrian.com> wrote in message news:bf7b874e.0111020020.36afc353@posting.google.com... > ianbeardsley@webtv.net (Ian Beardsley) wrote in message news:<29617-3BE1FC80-13@storefull-172.iap.bryant.webtv.net>... > > I don't have a problem believing in the concept of a deterministic > > universe, my problem is in believing in the existence of a universe. > > And I thought I had a problem! > > > The > > only way something can exist is if it came from nothing or, if it has > > always been there. > > AND the perfect example of both those things is > to be found inside every box of CrackerJack. > > > Since I can't comprehend either scenario I can't > > believe that I or, anything exists. > > That is a problem, but lucky you: I know > how to help you get rid of your problem! > > This is what you have to do: Buy a gun... > load it... and blow your brains off: > > Now IF you no longer exist, no problem. > And IF you DID exist: problem solved. > > S D Rodrian > poems.sdrodrian.com > physics.sdrodrian.com
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