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Article #1095Re: HOW TO VIOLATE THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS
From: Deen
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:27
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:27
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On Sep 20, 11:19 am, "Cwatters" <colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote: > "Pentcho Valev" <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:3ad94f69-e7bd-45ed-8c36-005b422371d3@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com... > > > In the absence of the polymer, adding H+ to and removing the same > > amount of H+ from the system, in a reversible fashion, would amount to > > zero net work gained. The polymers designed by Urry, however, release H > > + as they contract, and absorb H+ as we stretch them. > > But does it release/absorb ALL the H and is it at the same temperature and > pressure? at atomic scale these things makes no sense
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