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Article #1111Re: EINSTEIN WRONG: THE SHORTEST PROOF
From: PD
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:18
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:18
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On Sep 13, 6:28 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Premise: Einstein's equivalence principle > > Conclusions: > If the speed of light varies with the gravitational potential V in > accordance with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) given by > Newton's emission theory of light, then the speed of light varies with > the speed of the light source v in accordance with the equation c'=c+v > given again by Newton's emission theory of light, that is, Einstein's > 1905 light postulate is false. > > If the speed of light varies with the gravitational potential V in > accordance with Einstein's 1915 equation c'=c(1+2V/c^2), then the > speed of light varies with the speed of the light source v in > accordance with the equation c'=c+2v, that is, Einstein's 1905 light > postulate is false. Nonsense, Pentcho. The variation of light speed as observed across a gravitational potential is clearly a statement made in a non-inertial frame. The second postulate explicitly refers to the speed of light being invariant in *inertial* reference frames. I don't know why this simple distinction is lost on you. > > If the speed of light does not vary with the gravitational potential V > (Einstein would not agree but nowadays silly Einsteinians do teach > so), then the speed of light does not vary with the speed of the light > source v either, that is, Einstein's 1905 light postulate is true. > > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > Premise: The wavelength is determined by the light source and cannot > depend on the movements of the observer. > > Premise: (frequency)=(speed of light)/(wavelength) > > Conclusion: If the observer is initially at rest relative to but then > starts moving towards the light source, the frequency (Doppler effect) > and THE SPEED OF LIGHT INCREASE. > > Compare with John Norton's reasoning (the TEXT IN CAPITALS is wrong): > > http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/big_bang/ind... > John Norton: "Here's a light wave and an observer. If the observer > were to hurry towards the source of the light, the observer would now > pass wavecrests more frequently than the resting observer. That would > mean that moving observer would find the frequency of the light to > have increased (AND CORRESPONDINGLY FOR THE WAVELENGTH - THE DISTANCE > BETWEEN CRESTS - TO HAVE DECREASED)." > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com
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