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Article #1137Re: EINSTEIN WRONG: THE SHORTEST PROOF
From: Androcles
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:48
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:48
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"harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote in message news:66eea628-1833-43c9-8a45-d448e1871d99@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... On Sep 10, 7:10 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Premise: The wavelength is determined by the light source and cannot > depend on the movements of the observer. > > Premise: (frequency)=(speed of light)/(wavelength) > > Conclusion: If the observer is initially at rest relative to but then > starts moving towards the light source, the frequency (Doppler effect) > and THE SPEED OF LIGHT INCREASE. > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com Try this variant of your argument: 'Premise: The frequency is determined by the light source and cannot depend on the movements of the observer. Premise: (frequency)=(speed of light)/(wavelength) Conclusion: If the observer is initially at rest relative to but then starts moving towards the light source, the wavelength decreases (Doppler effect) and THE SPEED OF LIGHT INCREASES.' ;-) ============================================== Try this variant of your argument: 'Premise: The frequency is determined by the light source and cannot depend on the movements of the observer. Premise: (wavelength)=(speed of light)/ (frequency) Conclusion: If the observer is initially at rest relative to but then starts moving towards the light source, the APPARENT frequency increases for the observer (Doppler effect) and THE SPEED OF LIGHT/sound/water waves INCREASES relative to the observer and remains the same relative to the source. Your premise is fucked. ;-)
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