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Re: EINSTEIN WRONG: THE SHORTEST PROOF

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From: kenseto
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:07
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On Sep 10, 1:10 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Premise: The wavelength is determined by the light source and cannot
> depend on the movements of the observer.
>
> Premise: (frequency)=(speed of light)/(wavelength)
>
> Conclusion: If the observer is initially at rest relative to but then
> starts moving towards the light source, the frequency (Doppler effect)
> and THE SPEED OF LIGHT INCREASE.

Right.....every observer measures his sodium source to have a
wavelength of 589 nm. Therefore 589 nm is the universal wavelength of
sodium. When an observer move toward a sodium source the increase in
frequency is due to the increase arrival of sodiun light as follows:
c'=(measured incoming frequency of the sodium source)(589 nm)

The SRians will argue that the wavelength of the incoming sodium light
is measured to be shorter and therefore the speed of light is
maintained to be c. This assertion neglected the fact that the
incoming sodium light becomes a new light source in the grating's
frame and the grating defines a new universal wavelength for this new
light source. This is the same as that the grating defines a universal
wavelength for all the light sources (such as mercury, H-Alpha,
helium....etc) in its frame.

Ken Seto


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> Pentcho Valev
> pva...@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: EINSTEIN WRONG: THE SHORTEST PROOF
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