Re: EINSTEIN WRONG: THE SHORTEST PROOF

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From: rotchm
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:18

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On Sep 10, 1:10 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Premise: The wavelength is determined by the light source and cannot
> depend on the movements of the observer.
>
> Premise: (frequency)=(speed of light)/(wavelength)
>
> Conclusion: If the observer is initially at rest relative to but then
> starts moving towards the light source, the frequency (Doppler effect)
> and THE SPEED OF LIGHT INCREASE.

Assuming SR in your argument:

Your first premise is wrong. The wavelength of a source is not
determined by the source; the "frequency" is.

Second premise ambigous. What does 'frequency' mean here?
There is the:
1) frequency of the source
2) frequency received by an observer
3) observed frequency of the source

These are three completely different things. Depending on the context,
but usually mean

1) = proper frequency
2) = rate at which the observer receives the "crests"
3) = rate of the source as *calculated* by relativistic Doppler.

So again... define "frequency".

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