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Re: THE PROBABILITY OF HELL

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From: Sanforized
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:02
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foolsrushin. wrote:
> On 5 Aug, 03:26, Sanforized <sanfori...@naol.con> wrote:
> 
>>foolsrushin wrote:
>>much snippage
>>
>>>One [other] rub is: What happens if you could solve all pollution and
>>>energy problems tomorrow morning? Chaos in economies! Belief, alas, is
>>>more important than truth!

>>You've been reading far too much Ayn Rand.

> Strange that you should say that. Friends set up a sort of community
> based on her principles, and I get the occasional invitation to visit
> them, once to write an article about them. Supposedly based on
> Objectivism, laissez-faire capitalism, and tolerance for the full
> flowering of the individual, it is the most rule-driven, hierarchical
> and unnecessarily structured system of social togetherness I have ever
> seen in my whole life - with rules for everything!
> 
> The great C. Wright-Mills would not have been shocked, though
> fascinated by many factors he predicated of quasi-prescriptive and non-
> organic social orders. For example, you need an invitation from the
> whole community to the communal dinner, which wasn't at all bad: quite
> lively, in fact, with lots of predictable chatter.
> 
> The most extraordinary thing was when I approached my old friend PU,
> who was tending some gardens. A founding member, he had invited me.
> 'How would you describe your role here, PU?' 'John, we sent you the
> booklet: that explains everything! Otherwise talk to Peter and Jane,
> who, over dinner, told me almost nothing at all!'
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 'Why do you all have security doors?'
> 
> 'Who owns what around here?'
> 
> 'What do you do if someone dies?'
> 
> 'How do you decide who gets in?'
> 
> 'How much per head do you put in together?'
> 
> And so forth: perhaps 30 more questions.
> 
> Judith:
> 'I made this pie: would you like to try it?'
> 
> I doubt very much whether you or I would have been happy there!

Most governments evolve in directions that the
citizens want. I'd have worked it were I there.

In principle the one thing the Soviets got right
was the commissar system. Not so very many laws,
but sprinkle around people well versed in the
principles. You don't need thousands of laws on
the books when one easy one, "Money may only be
traded for sweat" along with the commissars will
do the trick. And of course a few commissars
replaced a lot of policemen.
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