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Article #1162Re: DEDUCTION IN THE ERA OF POSTSCIENTISM
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:11
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:11
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The falsification of a deductive theory can be brief (not in the era of Postscientism of course). If, for instance, a postulate, e.g. Einstein's 1905 light postulate, is false, then REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM could quickly put an end to the respective theory: http://www.labnews.co.uk/laboratory_article.php/4514/2/attack-on-great-pillar-of-physics If the postulate, e.g. Clausius' 1850 postulate (Heat flows spontaneously from hot to cold), is true, then the argument built on it could still be invalid and the theory should be (should have been) abandoned. Why Clausius' 1850 argument is invalid: Clausius' claims given below in capitals: "THE ONLY CHANGE" and "WITHOUT ANY EXPENDITURE OF FORCE OR ANY OTHER CHANGE" - are false: http://web.lemoyne.edu/~giunta/Clausius.html "Ueber die bewegende Kraft der Warme" 1850 Rudolf Clausius: "Carnot assumed, as has already been mentioned, that the equivalent of the work done by heat is found in the mere transfer of heat from a hotter to a colder body, while the quantity of heat remains undiminished. The latter part of this assumption--namely, that the quantity of heat remains undiminished--contradicts our former principle, and must therefore be rejected... (...) It is this maximum of work which must be compared with the heat transferred. When this is done it appears that there is in fact ground for asserting, with Carnot, that it depends only on the quantity of the heat transferred and on the temperatures t and tau of the two bodies A and B, but not on the nature of the substance by means of which the work is done. (...) If we now suppose that there are two substances of which the one can produce more work than the other by the transfer of a given amount of heat, or, what comes to the same thing, needs to transfer less heat from A to B to produce a given quantity of work, we may use these two substances alternately by producing work with one of them in the above process. At the end of the operations both bodies are in their original condition; further, the work produced will have exactly counterbalanced the work done, and therefore, by our former principle, the quantity of heat can have neither increased nor diminished. THE ONLY CHANGE will occur in the distribution of the heat, since more heat will be transferred from B to A than from A to B, and so on the whole heat will be transferred from B to A. By repeating these two processes alternately it would be possible, WITHOUT ANY EXPENDITURE OF FORCE OR ANY OTHER CHANGE, to transfer as much heat as we please from a cold to a hot body, and this is not in accord with the other relations of heat, since it always shows a tendency to equalize temperature differences and therefore to pass from hotter to colder bodies." In fact, the process considered by Clausius and essential for his argument presupposes the constant action of an OPERATOR; this operator constantly and unavoidably undergoes CHANGES, changes that are absent when heat spontaneously "shows a tendency to equalize temperature differences and therefore to pass from hotter to colder bodies". Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com On Aug 29 Pentcho Valev wrote: > W. H. Newton-Smith, THE RATIONALITY OF SCIENCE, Routledge, London, > 1981, p. 199: > "By a theory I shall mean the deductive closure of a set of > theoretical postulates together with an appropriate set of auxiliary > hypotheses; that is, everything that CAN BE deduced from this set." > > This definition is nice but "CAN BE", a typical postscientific > distortion, spoils everything. "CAN BE" presupposes an infinite number > of arguments and, accordingly, an infinite number of conclusions or > assertions in the theory. So "CAN BE" vindicates established > postscientific accounts of deductive science: > > W. H. Newton-Smith, THE RATIONALITY OF SCIENCE, Routledge, London, > 1981, p. 55: > "A theory is a set of assertions and if the number of assertions in a > theory were finite we might initially seek to explicate the notion of > relative verisimilitude in terms of the number of truths and the > number of falsehoods contained within the theories." > > That is, since, according to Newton-Smith, the number of assertions > in a theory is infinite, we cannot "explicate the notion of relative > verisimilitude in terms of the number of truths and the number of > falsehoods contained within the theories" and therefore should take > Popper's speculations very seriously. In the absence of postscientific > distortion Newton-Smith's definition would be slightly different: > > "By a theory I shall mean the deductive closure of a set of > theoretical postulates together with an appropriate set of auxiliary > hypotheses; that is, everything that HAS BEEN deduced from this set." > > Then the verification of any deductive theory would be reduced to a > small number of verifications of the truthfulness of the postulates > and the auxiliary hypotheses, on the one hand, and a finite number of > verifications of the validity of the arguments, on the other.
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