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Article #1222Re: DOPPLER EFFECT, SPEED OF LIGHT AND EINSTEINIANA'S TEACHERS
From: rotchm
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:18
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:18
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On Aug 10, 3:14 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > If the observer suddenly starts moving towards the light source, the > frequency of light increases (Doppler effect). This has a SIMPLE > IMPLICATION: the wavecrests are now bumping more frequently into the > observer, that is, THE SPEED OF LIGHT RELATIVE TO THE OBSERVER HAS > INCREASED. "But this is fatal for Divine Albert's Divine Theory" - say > to themselves Einsteiniana's teachers and replace the SIMPLE > IMPLICATION with an IDIOTIC ONE: <SNIP> If the observer suddenly starts moving towards the light source, he will observe the source to emit at a *lower* frequency and he will observe the reception of the crest at a greater frequency. Confusing huh ? Is the observer observing the frequency of the source or the frequency of the received signal? And realize that there are two factors involved in the Doppler effect: Time dilation which changes the frequency of the source ( wrt observer) and the classical effect of the source "catching up" ( or receeding) to the wavecrest. The first tends to reduce the received frequency of the crests and the latter tends to increase the received frequency of the crests. The net effect is an increased in the freq. of the received crests ( for an approaching observer/source) and the value is given by the relativistic formula for "Doppler effect": f_received = f_proper * s(1+b)/s(1-b).
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