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Article #1226Re: DOPPLER EFFECT, SPEED OF LIGHT AND EINSTEINIANA'S TEACHERS
From: kenseto
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:12
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:12
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On Aug 10, 10:18ย am, rotchm <rot...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 10, 3:14ย am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:> If the observer suddenly starts moving towards the light source, the > > frequency of light increases (Doppler effect). This has a SIMPLE > > IMPLICATION: the wavecrests are now bumping more frequently into the > > observer, that is, THE SPEED OF LIGHT RELATIVE TO THE OBSERVER HAS > > INCREASED. "But this is fatal for Divine Albert's Divine Theory" - say > > to themselves Einsteiniana's teachers and replace the SIMPLE > > IMPLICATION with an IDIOTIC ONE: > > <SNIP> > > If the observer suddenly starts moving towards the light source, he > will observe the source to emit at a *lower* frequency and he will > observe the reception of the crest at a greater frequency. Confusing > huh ? No he will observe the source emits at a higher frequency and receive the crestss at a greater frequency. Ken Seto > > Is the observer observing the frequency of the source or the frequency > of the received signal? > > And realize that there are two factors involved in the Doppler effect: > Time dilation which changes the frequency of the source ( wrt > observer) and the classical effect of the source "catching up" ( or > receeding) to the wavecrest. ย The first tends to reduce the received > frequency of the crests and the latter tends to increase the received > frequency of the crests. The net effect is an increased in the freq. > of the received crests ( for an approaching observer/source) and the > value is given by the relativistic formula for "Doppler effect": > f_received = f_proper * s(1+b)/s(1-b).
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