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THE JOURNAL NATURE: NO GUILTY CONSCIENCE?

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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:32
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Since initially Herbert Dingle was an important Einsteinian the
journal Nature was misled into publishing a few heretical papers of
his:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v183/n4677/abs/1831761a0.html
Nature 183, 1761 (20 June 1959) Herbert Dingle: "AS is well known,
Einstein's special theory of relativity rests on two postulates: (1)
the postulate of relativity; (2) the postulate of constant light
velocity, which says "that light is always propagated in empty space
with a definite velocity c which is independent of the state of motion
of the emitting body". For the first postulate there is much
experimental support; for the second, none."

Then the journal restored its image by giving constant and fierce
worship to Einstein's idiocies, on the one hand, and constant and
fierce fight to heretics, on the other:

http://philipball.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-is-karl-neder-these-people-tend-to.html
Philip Ball: "In my novel The Sun and Moon Corrupted, where these
words appear, I sought to convey the fact that the group of
individuals who scientists would call cranks, and who submit their
ideas with tenacious insistence and persistence to journals such as
Nature, have remarkably similar characteristics and obsessions. They
tend to express themselves in much the same manner, exemplified in my
book by the letters of the fictional Hungarian physicist Karl Neder.
And their egocentricity knows no bounds. I realised that, if I was
right in this characterization, it would not be long at all before
some of these people became convinced that Karl Neder is based on
them. (The fact is that he is indeed loosely based on a real person,
but there are reasons why I can be very confident that this person
will never identify the fact.) And so it comes to pass. The first
person to cry 'It's me!' seems to be one Pentcho Valev. I do not know
who Valev is, but it seems I once (more than once?) had the task of
rejecting a paper he submitted to Nature. I remember more than you
might imagine about the decisions I made while an editor at Nature,
and by no means always because the memory is pleasant. But I fear that
Valev rings no bells at all. Nonetheless, says Valev, there are "Too
many coincidences: Bulgaria + thermodynamics + Einstein + desperately
trying to publish (in Nature) + Phillip [sic] Ball is Nature's editor
at that time and mercilessly rejects all my papers. Yes most probably
I am at least part of this Karl Neder. Bravo Phillip Ball! Some may
say it is unethical for you to make money by describing the plight of
your victims but don't believe them: there is nothing unethical in
Einstein zombie world." (If it is any consolation, Mr Valev, the
notion that this book has brought me "fortune" provokes hollow
laughter.)"

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com
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