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Article #1255Re: THE JOURNAL NATURE: NO GUILTY CONSCIENCE?
From: BradGuth
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:57
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:57
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On Aug 6, 1:32 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Since initially Herbert Dingle was an important Einsteinian the > journal Nature was misled into publishing a few heretical papers of > his: > > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v183/n4677/abs/1831761a0.html > Nature 183, 1761 (20 June 1959) Herbert Dingle: "AS is well known, > Einstein's special theory of relativity rests on two postulates: (1) > the postulate of relativity; (2) the postulate of constant light > velocity, which says "that light is always propagated in empty space > with a definite velocity c which is independent of the state of motion > of the emitting body". For the first postulate there is much > experimental support; for the second, none." > > Then the journal restored its image by giving constant and fierce > worship to Einstein's idiocies, on the one hand, and constant and > fierce fight to heretics, on the other: > > http://philipball.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-is-karl-neder-these-people... > Philip Ball: "In my novel The Sun and Moon Corrupted, where these > words appear, I sought to convey the fact that the group of > individuals who scientists would call cranks, and who submit their > ideas with tenacious insistence and persistence to journals such as > Nature, have remarkably similar characteristics and obsessions. They > tend to express themselves in much the same manner, exemplified in my > book by the letters of the fictional Hungarian physicist Karl Neder. > And their egocentricity knows no bounds. I realised that, if I was > right in this characterization, it would not be long at all before > some of these people became convinced that Karl Neder is based on > them. (The fact is that he is indeed loosely based on a real person, > but there are reasons why I can be very confident that this person > will never identify the fact.) And so it comes to pass. The first > person to cry 'It's me!' seems to be one Pentcho Valev. I do not know > who Valev is, but it seems I once (more than once?) had the task of > rejecting a paper he submitted to Nature. I remember more than you > might imagine about the decisions I made while an editor at Nature, > and by no means always because the memory is pleasant. But I fear that > Valev rings no bells at all. Nonetheless, says Valev, there are "Too > many coincidences: Bulgaria + thermodynamics + Einstein + desperately > trying to publish (in Nature) + Phillip [sic] Ball is Nature's editor > at that time and mercilessly rejects all my papers. Yes most probably > I am at least part of this Karl Neder. Bravo Phillip Ball! Some may > say it is unethical for you to make money by describing the plight of > your victims but don't believe them: there is nothing unethical in > Einstein zombie world." (If it is any consolation, Mr Valev, the > notion that this book has brought me "fortune" provokes hollow > laughter.)" > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com Being that you are not Jewish means that pretty much anything you or others of your unkosher kind have to say is always meaningless. Uncle Al is certainly offering further proof of this. ~ BG
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X-Google-Thread: 237b8ad48,dc95e73e5467d17b X-Google-Attributes: gid237b8ad48,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: BradGuth <bradguth@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique Subject: Re: THE JOURNAL NATURE: NO GUILTY CONSCIENCE? Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 56 Message-ID: <7a103e10-2fde-4c2c-b86c-db92b64f3067@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com> References: <e295d7ef-fd96-4835-9782-65fbb5d75276@c1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.91.99.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1249574246 2494 127.0.0.1 (6 Aug 2009 15:57:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com; posting-host=64.91.99.33; posting-account=nf79RwoAAABXjvy5ztMzmPxgY1WGoktI User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)