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Re: THE SHORTEST HISTORY OF RELATIVITY

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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:13
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"Einstein wrote this paper in 1911 in German (download from:
http://www.physik.uni-augsburg.de/annalen/history/einstein-papers/1911_35_898-908.pdf
). It predated the full formal development of general relativity by
about four years. You can find an English translation of this paper in
the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity' beginning on page 99; you
will find in section 3 of that paper Einstein's derivation of the
variable speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The
result is: c'=c0(1+phi/c^2) where phi is the gravitational potential
relative to the point where the speed of light co is measured......You
can find a more sophisticated derivation later by Einstein (1955) from
the full theory of general relativity in the weak field
approximation....For the 1955 results but not in coordinates see page
93, eqn (6.28): c(r)=[1+2phi(r)/c^2]c. Namely the 1955 approximation
shows a variation in km/sec twice as much as first predicted in
1911."

Sooner or later Einsteiniana's teachers will have to answer the simple
question: The gravitational redshift factor 1+phi/c^2 experimentally
confirmed by Pound and Rebka is consistent with:

(A) Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+phi/c^2) GIVEN BY NEWTON'S
EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT?

(B) Einstein's 1955 (in fact, it was devised in 1915) camouflage c'=c
(1+2phi/c^2)?

Then Einsteiniana's teachers will have to explain why they have been
so silent about this simple problem for so long.

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com
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