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Article #1287Re: Bending of Light by the Sun NEVER ACCURATELY MEASURED.
From: Don Stockbauer
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:38
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:38
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On Mar 25, 4:41 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Mar 24, 2:26 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote in > sci.physics.relativity: > > > > > On Mar 23, 4:18 pm, hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > > > > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:33:51 -0000, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> > > > wrote: > > > > >"Dr. Henri Wilson" <hw@..> wrote in message > > > >news:ck3gs49ng1oq1ibl146j29is59vsqd1a9h@4ax.com... > > > >>I don't believe any of the experiments claiming measurement the bending of > > > >> light by the sun has been at all accurate. The reason I say this is that > > > >> the > > > >> movement of a star's image as it is seen to approach the sun's edge > > > >> progressively slows, stops then reverses, making it impossible to tell how > > > >> close the light rays are passing by the actual edge..and that is a crucial > > > >> factor. Eddington's experiment was just a publicity stunt and a farce. > > > > >> Gravitational bending of light and lensing are a natural consequence of > > > >> Newtonian theory. Light is accelerated by gravity just like anything else. > > > >> It > > > >> is also slowed by interaction with the solar wind and the sun's > > > >> atmosphere. > > > > >Most of it is the Coriolis effect. > > > >It take 8 minutes for light to travel from the Sun to Earth. > > > >In that time Earth travels 8 * 360/(1year * 365 days * 24 hours * 60 > > > >minutes) = > > > > 0.0055 degrees or 0.33 arc minutes or 20 arc seconds from a straight > > > >line connecting the Earth, Sun and a distant star. Eddington was a dork. > > > >http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/fw/gifs/coriolis.mov > > > > Yes, the whole past procedure appears to be flawed. But Eddington and Einstein > > > knew there were thousands of little eric geeses around who would lap up > > > anything that resembled science fiction. > > > Then look at the more recent observations. You do know there have been > > recent observations...right? > > Earlier observations were fraud but recent are not....right? That is, > it was fraud that converted Albert the Plagiarist into Divine Albert > whereas recent observations just confirmed the Divinity....right? > > http://www.cieletespace.fr/evenement/relativit-les-preuves-taient-fau... > RELATIVITE: LES PREUVES ETAIENT FAUSSES > "Le monde entier a cru pendant plus de cinquante ans à une théorie non > vérifiée. Car, nous le savons aujourdhui, les premières preuves, > issues notamment dune célèbre éclipse de 1919, nen étaient pas. Elles > reposaient en partie sur des manipulations peu avouables visant à > obtenir un résultat connu à lavance, et sur des mesures entachées > dincertitudes, quand il ne sagissait pas de fraudes caractérisées." > > http://www.cieletespaceradio.fr/index.php/2008/05/26/390-histoire-des... > "Au début du XXème siècle, des scientifiques comme le Britannique > Arthur Eddington avaient tant à coeur de vérifier la théorie de la > relativité qu'ils ont tout mis en oeuvre pour que leurs expériences > soient probantes." > (ECOUTEZ!) > > > > Nothing wrong with gravitational lensing though. It is plainly Newtonian. > > > Except it is wrong by a factor of two. > > Which equation is consistent with the gravitational redshift factor > 1+V/c^2 experimentally confirmed by Pound and Rebka: Einstein's 1911 > equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) given by Newton's emission theory of light, or > Einstein's 1915 "improved" equation c'=c(1+2V/c^2)? > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com Why all this argle-bargle over relativity when cybernetics is the answer to our problems?
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