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Article #1294Re: Bending of Light by the Sun NEVER ACCURATELY MEASURED.
From: hanson
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:15
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:15
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"Dr. Henri Wilson" <hw@..> wrote in message
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> "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote:
>>-------- ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha.... ----
>>>
>>"Dr. Henri Wilson" <hw@..> wrote in message
>>news:ai9ls41u2scejmgogjdi39c0c0rr0iuqf7@4ax.com...
>>> Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: in
>>>>> hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
>>>>>> "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
>>>>> > >"Dr. Henri Wilson" <hw@..> wrote:
>>>>> > >> I don't believe any of the experiments claiming
>>>>> > >> measurement the bending of light by the sun has
>>>>> > >> been at all accurate. The reason I say this is
>>>>> > >> Gravitational bending of light and lensing are
>>>>> > >> a naturalconsequence of Newtonian theory.
>>>>> > >> Light is accelerated by gravity just like anything else.
>>>>>
>>"Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
>>>>> > >Most of it is the Coriolis effect.
>>>>> > >It take 8 minutes for light to travel from the Sun to Earth.
>>>>> > > In that time Earth travels 8 * 360/(1year * 365 days
>>>>> > >* 24 hours * 60 minutes) = 0.0055 degrees or 0.33 arc
>>>>> > > minutes or 20 arc seconds from a straight line
>>>>> > >connecting the Earth, Sun and a distant star. Eddington
>>>>> > >was a dork.
>>>>> > > http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/fw/gifs/coriolis.mov
>>>>>
>>hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
>>>>> > Yes, the whole past procedure appears to be flawed.
>>>>> > But Eddington and Einstein knew there were thousands
>>>>> > of little eric geeses around who would lap up anything that
>>>>> > resembled science fiction.
>>>>>
>>Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Then look at the more recent observations. You do know
>>>>> there have been recent observations...right?
>>>>
>>Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>Earlier observations were fraud but recent are not....right?
>>>>That is, it was fraud that converted Albert the Plagiarist into
>>>> Divine Albert whereas recent observations just confirmed
>>>> the Divinity....right?
>>>>http://www.cieletespace.fr/evenement/relativit-les-preuves-taient-fausses
>>>>RELATIVITE: LES PREUVES ETAIENT FAUSSES
>>>>http://www.cieletespaceradio.fr/index.php/2008/05/26/390-histoire-des-sciences-les-preuves-de-la-relativite
>>>>
>>hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
>>>>> > Nothing wrong with gravitational lensing though.
>>>>> > It is plainly Newtonian.
>>>>>
>>Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Except it is wrong by a factor of two.
>>>>
>>Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Which equation is consistent with the gravitational redshift
>>>> factor 1+V/c^2 experimentally confirmed by Pound and Rebka:
>>>> Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) given by Newton's
>>>> emission theory of light, or
>>>> Einstein's 1915 "improved" equation c'=c(1+2V/c^2)?
>>>
>>hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
>>> Good one Pencho.....when he fudged his equation to match
>>> the sun's supposed bending he stuffed it up for the
>>> Pound Rebka result.
>>
hanson wrote:
... ahahahaha... and the story would get even better if Androcles
would have elaborated more on his take. Androcles often quotes
from Einstein's 1905 paper and says:
>>>
::AE:: "Nun bewegt sich aber der Lichtstrahl relativ zum
::AE:: Anfangspunkt von k im ruhenden System gemessen
::AE:: mit der Geschwindigkeit V - v, so da� gilt: t = x'/(V-v)."
and then Andro or someone clarifies this by posting that ~~
== "during the days of Einstein's original 1905 papers
== "V" was commonly used to denote "c", the speed of light.
>>>
Now, if that is so then (1+V/c^2) or (1+2V/c^2) can be written
as (1+1/c) or (1+2/c) ... & we have an entirely new ball game...
which is why Relativity is so relative.... It's got somerthing
for everybody... because it came out of the mindset of a tribe
that could walk on water, make wine from water and satisfy
7000 ancestors of Einstein's Dingleberries with 1 single fish...
>>>
Fishy, fishy!.. But "Trust Me"... "Go Figure!... ahahahahaha...
Thanks for the laughs, guys!....ahahahaha... ahahahanson
>
hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
Welcome back Hanson, I was getting worried about you...
thought the libel police might have gottten you.
>
hanson wrote:
... I do not know about any libel. Never intended nor
did I ever do that but but I made some "religious"
fanatical extremist factions very unhappy... hahaha...
Usually I make fun of and do have fun with
a) Green Shits, Enviro Turds and little Green Idiots,
aka Class 1, 2 or 3 environmentalists... hahaha..
b) Einstein Dinglenberries and the many re-inventors
of physics, or failed (ex)-teachers who come
to the Usenet for remedial teaching skills, seeking
absolution or a belated self-anointment convincing
themselves that they were not that bad after all.
c) and then there are the ungodly godly ones...ahaha..
the monotheists, starting with Zios and Kikes as
the original and still operational culprits, and their
first derivatives, the Bible beaters and the lots
of Evangelicals, only to be trumped by their 2nd tier,
the penturnal ass-venters who believe that they are
the more chosen people then are their other 2 sets
of predecessors of spiritual aberrance... ahahahaha....
>
... and so 1 or more of these august groups tried to SAVE
me from myself and got to Google, which BANNED me.
>
Unfortunatley for the plaintiffs, I am still here and so
is my entire archive.... AHAHAHA... except for the
access to my profile... ahahaha.... Now the poor
bastards have a harder time to crank themselves
over me... which must crank them even more...
ahahahaha... MY message got heard!!!... AHAHA..
>
hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
The Einstein dingleberries can't make up their minds
whether or not the factor of two actually exists.
If it does, they are stuffed. If it doesn't they are
still stuffed....
I look forward to some more laughs...
Harry Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm.
>
hanson wrote:
OK, ahahahaha... Read Pentcho's post with the link
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/hutchison/080616
Great stuff and LOTS of laughs in there, like
>
:: -- Godel gave AE an F in post-doctoral mathematics.
:: -- Einstein built a cluster of "Potemkin villages,"
:: which are false fronts with nothing behind them.
:: -- Einstein used blackboard mathematics to develop
:: a picture of a cosmos that does not exist.
:: -- Birks sent me a paper titled "Relativity is Self-Refuting."
:: -- Einstein has nothing worthwhile to say...
:: -- NASA does not use Einstein for orbiting satellites
:: or for falling space modules.
:: -- The science establishment continues to give public
:: credit to Einstein for both! Potemkin villages!
:: -- AE's concepts mere junk science to fool the students.
:: -- Einstein's relativity cannot explain the fall of an apple,
:: and his math is of no practical use.
:: -- Einstein was a man, not God. That is precisely why Einstein
:: is understandable by men, and some men are at home with
:: Einstein. (like his hordes of Einstein Dinglenberries...
ahaha..)
:: -- The flaws in Einstein are inaccessible to a scientific insider
:: because of his illusion of certitude (by the establishment) ...
:: -- "Hey, these (Einstein) formulas sound like Kepler!!!"
:: -- Using Einstein's general relativity to move galaxies is like
:: using a tot on a tricycle to haul a heavy load of lumber.
:: -- Why have faith in Einstein? Because his pantheistic and
:: symmetrical cosmos is romantically pleasing?
:: -- Einstein violates his own principles.
:: -- Einstein arbitrarily claimed that the twin on earth ages
:: faster, he contradicted his own principle.
:: -- Notice the powerful links between science and theology?
:: -- What Einstein is saying is nonsense.
:: -- Relativity is self-refuting, and Einstein's cosmos can
:: exist only in the imagination.
:: -- � Fred Hutchison
>
Now mind you, Henry, what used to be just Usenet
palaver has now reached academia and the public
media at large... Like Maddoff now, the Zios, both cons
at heart, have their best days behind them... Kinda
shame though.They were cause for lots of laughs....
ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHA... ahahahanson
>
PS:
Pentcho, thanks for tyhe post and nthe lauighs!
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